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[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 7 hours ago

Could? Lmao. Don't you need laws and elected officials to count as a democracy to begin with?

[-] low_stars@lemmy.world 13 points 12 hours ago

It lost that status a long time ago. We keep the veneer of it intact, though.

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 10 points 11 hours ago

Most of the "Democracy" status countries are bull shit anyway. They are heavily weighed on "Economic Freedom" which is a fancy way of saying the freedom for which Imperialist nations corporations are able to exploit third world countries resources.

Nationalize your oil system and have the profits of it go directly back to your people for the improvement of social programs? Damn, that sounds like Communism!

Sell oil drilling rights to Shell to "bring jobs" to your country that pay poverty wages, destroy local ecosystems, and extract all your resources with no benefits to the local population? Well, that's "Economic Freedom" baby!

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 10 hours ago

First of all, that's not what "Economic Freedom" means in the context of democracy, but more importantly "economic freedom" is not even a factor in the methodology used by the group this article is citing.

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 2 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I wasn't referencing the article I was speaking more generally on things like "Democracy Index" or others that care more about a country having unregulated free markets than they do about citizens having healthcare. This is often what these "democracy" surveys refer to as Economic Freedom. You can pretend it's how they act like it's defined like "oh the government can't tell you what business you can run as a poor mom and pop shop". But in reality it's the biggest players that benefit from unregulated markets on a global scale.

It's why a capitalist hellhole like Argentina is considered a "flawed democracy" and Cuba is considered "Authoritarian". It's just neoliberal bull shit.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 10 hours ago

Is this just your vibes or do you have a source? Because I just checked the website of the organization this article is referencing and it says no such thing.

[-] Allonzee@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago)

We haven't had a vote on the shape or priorities of our economy since 1980. This is an economic dictatorship, and has been longer than most of us here have been alive.

We just get a vote on how/if to address the social wedge symptoms that economy either causes or exacerbates.

And only IF addressing them won't meaningfully harm quarterly earnings expectations for our sociopath class. Example: you know what would drastically reduce the number of abortions without any kind of ban? A living wage that can support a family. But that would cut into corporate metastasis and is therefore a non-starter by either party in anything more than rhetoric.

You can have scapegoating(R) or affirmation ribbons(D), so long as you vote for for profit prisons, legal murder for profit, millions of Americans dying of exposure on the streets, crumbling commons, public education in utter ruin.... Freedom!

[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 38 points 22 hours ago

Could? ....should.

[-] iamunfuckwitable@lemmy.ca 32 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)
[-] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 3 points 12 hours ago

Probably won’t get it back

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 42 points 23 hours ago

America deserves to be recognized as a Third World Country. I say this as an American, it's deplorable how the citizens are treated.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 6 points 10 hours ago

To be clear- this is just your personal "vibe" and not an actual fact, because the term "third world country" literally means a country that is not aligned with the US or USSR. If you meant "developing nation" that term also has a definition the US does not meet.

[-] LeninOnAPrayer@lemm.ee 5 points 11 hours ago

I think the term is "A third world country with a Gucci belt"

[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

South Sudan is a third world country. America isnt third world, it's heading into authoritarianism.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

We've been a third world country for a several decades already. Just because we use to change out guys in the office every 4-8 years, doesnt mean it was ever all that good here.

[-] eldain@feddit.nl 24 points 22 hours ago

The cold war is over, they are called developing countries now. Your point still stands, the US has lots of developing to do, especially on the social/society front.

[-] Corgana@startrek.website 2 points 10 hours ago

It doesn't meet the definition of "developing nation" either.

[-] Jumpingspiderman@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago

Anyone surprised by this? Anyone? Because I’m not.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 59 points 1 day ago

We should have never had the status given we still use slaves.

[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Land of the free founded on slaves. America really is just a big pile of hypocrisy under the hood of vain surface level patriotism.

[-] ksigley@lemm.ee 33 points 1 day ago

Having a for-profit prison system was a bad choice.

Who could have seen it coming ?

[-] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 18 points 1 day ago

And a pay to win political candidate system, and a heavily monetized educational system. Who is surprised about the decline of the man who steps on his dick and machineguns his own foot?

[-] kittenzrulz123 54 points 1 day ago

The US is one of the most watered down democracies, even for a liberal democracy (which is severely watered down). Its a system where the needs of the many are filtered through the needs of the few. We dont need to "fix" liberal democracy, we need workers democracy (syndicalism).

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 126 points 1 day ago

And a few days after that, PragerU releases a video titled "Why democracies will fail eventually", which tells its viewers that democracy creates "moral decadence", and now a "strong leader" is needed to fix the issue, who might have told some noble lies like a parent tells their kid the stork brings the children when they're not ready for reality. And the video ends with a "Roman salute" over "God Bless America".

[-] DancingBear@midwest.social 41 points 1 day ago

People tell their kids the stork brings babies because the parent is the one not ready to have the conversation.

The parent is avoiding their own humiliation. Telling kids how babies are made is not embarassing for kids. Kids have no reason to feel shame or judgement about these kinds of things….

Just pointing this out to show that the metaphor here is deeply flawed.

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[-] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 7 points 1 day ago

New banana republic just dropped!

[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 6 points 23 hours ago

It's not exactly new, it's just that we're seeing clarification of changes that have been in the works for the last 20 years or longer, depending if you want to go back to Reagan.

And not surprisingly, he has to try to grab power as quickly as possible. If things collapse slowly then the people will still have the ability to rise up against him.

[-] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 3 points 14 hours ago

Old banana Republic just dropped!

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