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Title. It occurred to me that despite not wanting to support musk or some other American businesses because of their recent change in policies, I'm still holding a stake in those companies.

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[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 13 points 1 day ago

I'm fine with that, if Tesla keeps sinking the S&P will have to drop it from the index.

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 69 points 2 days ago

Yes, that is how index funds work. Tesla is apart of the index so you indirectly own shares in every S&P500.

You also have indirect shares in a host of other dodgy companies like Google, Meta, Amazon, Coco Cola, McDonalds, Pepsi, Disney

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_S%26P_500_companies

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 12 points 2 days ago

A longer way of saying what OP said.

[-] fushuan@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago

Yes, that's is how addendums work. They elaborate on what has been said to repeat what was said in a more complete manner, sometimes with examples.

[-] radix@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago

If it makes you feel better, you probably also hold a stake in their direct competition.

[-] Fondots@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

Didn't know that you could own stock in antifa and Luigi Mangione

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Well to buy Luigicoin, its really simple: You go to a 50501 Protest, you give in your community, you join a community network, and you try to reduce your business with Amazon and other companies helping Trump.

[-] superglue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

I'm sure there will be a Luigi coin any day now dont worry

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 days ago

There’s been once since last year

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It's oddly shaped like a cartridge

[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

A lot of their direct competition is not in the S&P 500 because they are not American companies. Hyundai, Volkswagen, Toyota, Nissan, BYD, etc. American automakers let the EV market languish so long that they are only now becoming legitimate competitors in that space

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

A lot of their direct competition is not in the S&P 500 because they are not American companies.

Lots of foreign companies are traded on American stock exchanges. Even one you cited as examples. Toyota is on the Nasdaq. Honda is as well.

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

VXUS might be a viable avenue to support Tesla's competition.

[-] Sconrad122@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yep, or any other etf or fund that tracks an ex US index, if folks don't want to give their money/share votes to Vanguard. I'm unfortunately not well versed in brokerages outside the US, so no fund suggestions, but VXUS tracks the FTSE Global All Cap Ex US index, MSCI also has a World ex US index, it shouldn't be too hard to find an ex US index tracking fund at a reputable brokerage of your choice

[-] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

You can buy a share or two of TSLQ to hedge against TSLA while still holding your index funds

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 2 days ago

Most people have money in the SP500 through their 401(k), sadly.

[-] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

For now....

[-] expatriado@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

one of the reasons isn't tanking faster, comes bundled up in many institutional accounts, retirement accounts, etc

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

Sometimes you have to play the game even if you don't like it.

[-] Wooki@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Shorts over the last month would have been profitable

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

"You gotta do what you gotta do", says the person tipping his hangman.

"I knew I could vote for the mice, but the cat had the cheese", says the mouse.

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I’m too tired to manually index the s&p 499.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 2 points 2 days ago

Or look for alternative index funds, apparently.

[-] Brodysseus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

I dont think I have to but its surely to my benefit. Classic case of greed vs values

[-] My_IFAKs___gone@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If you'd like to hold a large cap blend that doesn't include Tesla, you might like VTV (Vanguard Large Cap Value ETF). I didn't see Tesla listed in it and I really doubt it's any of the 339 companies it holds.

Edit: I just traded all my retirement shares of VTI for VTV. Fuck Tesla. And Facebook. And Amazon.

[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 7 points 2 days ago

For now anyhow...

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

American is kind of a central point for the market. Sure there are plenty of non American exchanges but if you want to do business with the "big boys" it is in New York.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago

One of the reasons I prefer something like the Russell 2000

this post was submitted on 16 Mar 2025
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