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submitted 2 days ago by zephorah@lemm.ee to c/politics@lemmy.world

This came up in my health care forum.

Right now, you can legally detain someone medically when they are a danger to themselves or others for up to 72hrs. The details vary by state, but this is how we lock down individuals trying to suicide or someone mentally off the rails making threats of violence.

This variation on that law would also make opposition to Trump qualify.

Civil commitment can follow as with individuals who have profound mental illness and are not safe to be out in the world.

This is the loudest scream that democracy is dead short of hauling people out into the street and shooting them.

It’s important to note the police are currently the people who bring individuals in for the 72hr mental health holds.

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[-] sfu@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

Like red flag laws, but for the other side.

[-] casmael@lemm.ee 48 points 2 days ago

Oh look it’s incredibly fucked up fascist policy again wow I’m so surprised who could have predicted this ?

[-] uuldika@lemmy.ml 53 points 2 days ago

it's legislative shitposting/meme magic. one of them gets an idea for the meme: adding "Trump Derangement Syndrome" as a mental illness to troll the libs. it provokes a reaction in us, because it's 2025 and for all we know the damn thing might pass at the rate the fascists are consuming the state, and the Republicans' base feeds off of our panic and grief, fueling their schadenfreude. Republican voters are the real trolls; these legislators are just their proxies.

basically, this is the meme magic formula that took 4chan from "ironic" Nazi trolls to an outright fascist resurgence across the West, that took Trump from a meme candidate to the Oval Office, that took the 51st State rhetoric from obvious hyperbole to deadly serious. it's "just a joke" when you're defending it, it's "just trolling" when you're pushing it through, and it's "owning the libs" when you're executing on it.

[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 23 points 2 days ago

As long as you aren't playing it down (I don't think you are but not 100% sure) I'm with you. Historically, that's how we got here.

Still, it needs to be called out, every step of the way. The more such "troll legislation" passes - possibly unseen - the worse things get.

Also, there's no 3- or even more-D chess going on. MAGAGOP is just throwing shit at the wall, not too bothered if something doesn't stick, but immediately ready to follow up if it does. So let's make sure it doesn't.

[-] uuldika@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 days ago

definitely not playing it down. the whole point of meme magic is that it shifts the Overton window so bills like these can actually pass. it's a kind of "irony laundering." they "troll" the Left, the Left raises alarm, the Right keks and calls us hysterical, the Center sees us as crying wolf and tunes us out. the Right pushes the "troll" legislation as far as they can because "it's just a prank bro," until we're weakened enough they can actually pass it.

it's like how the Right goads us into calling them "fascists" because they're literally being fascists, the Right gaslights saying we're always calling everyone "fascists," until fascism reenters the Overton window because the Center thinks "fascism" doesn't mean anything anymore.

honestly, the Left should have used this kind of meme magic back when Republicans were calling centrist Dems Socialists. if we'd used this strategy as well as the Right did we could be executing Billionaires by now.

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[-] Australis13@fedia.io 64 points 2 days ago

This is unhinged. I hope it doesn't pass.

[-] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 39 points 2 days ago

It won't. Even if it did Walz would would veto it.

Every single elected Nazi will probably vote for it, but they don't have a majority and they are super upset about it.

[-] LesserAbe@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Lot of people here need to get informed and get a grip. Just because a bill is introduced doesn't mean it will be passed. The overwhelming majority of bills that are introduced don't pass. And this is in one state, not federal. And if the legislature passed it the governor may veto it, and it would certainly face legal challenge.

I get that everything sucks right now and it feels like we're getting attacked on every front. I get the administration is doing illegal stuff. We're in for a rough time. Still: don't give them power by acting like every idea they bring up is likely, or possible. This bill is just trolling, it's so some nobody state level legislators will have a bullet point in their newsletter and a social media post.

[-] prole 6 points 1 day ago

You're missing the point. This shit drags the Overton window to the right every time.

They are testing the limits and normalizing this shit at the same time.

It doesn't pass... Until it does. Then what.

[-] LucidiaDiamond@lemm.ee 13 points 2 days ago

It can’t happen here…until it does

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[-] elatedCatfish@lemm.ee 26 points 2 days ago

This sounds like a great way to get a bunch of cops shot. Which is something they’re trying to push the death penalty for…

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[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago
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[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 38 points 2 days ago

U guys remember that scene in Schindler’s List where the little girl is screaming “Good bye you Jews!” To all the families as they are being marched off to a slave labor camp? Well this is how that sorta shit starts. Make the opposition the demon and get away with anything.

This is indeed how that sorta shit starts.

Worse, Americans also seem to have forgotten how to make that sort of shit end. Everyone agreed on what to do with Nazis 80 years ago.

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[-] zephorah@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago

Was there when I posted, granted, it’s made mainstream headlines.

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[-] RowRowRowYourBot@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Trump Derangement Syndrome" means the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump. Symptoms may include Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald J. Trump's behavior. This may be expressed by: new text end new text begin (1) verbal expressions of intense hostility toward President Donald J. Trump; and new text end new text begin (2) overt acts of aggression and violence against anyone supporting President Donald J. Trump or anything that symbolizes President Donald J. Tru"

Just in case you missed it

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[-] Azal@pawb.social 27 points 2 days ago

I saw on a conservative discussion group about making "TDS" (Trump Derangement Syndrom is what they're calling it) an actual entry into psychiatric work. I was wondering where this was coming from.

There it is.

[-] Mossheart@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 days ago

What's the bill number? Is there a link to the text for a full read?

[-] LemmyFeed@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

It's a Minnesota bill and the link takes you to the full text.

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[-] ExhaleSmile@lemmy.world 30 points 2 days ago

Subd. 28. Trump Derangement Syndrome.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome" means the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal persons that is in reaction to the policies and presidencies of President Donald J. Trump. Symptoms may include Trump-induced general hysteria, which produces an inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and signs of psychic pathology in President Donald J. Trump's behavior.

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[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago

These fucking unimaginative regressive vengeful idiots - they just ripped off ODS and CDS and tried to make it a thing during donvict's first term, and then, ironically had such a case of BDS under Biden [1].

Now the bootlicks want to enshrine "Trump Derangement Syndrome" (not a real thing) into law?

[1] ODS, CDS and BDS are and were actual things on the right, though. They kept claiming that these milquetoast center-right Democratic presidents were tyrannical, were going to take their guns, create death panels, bring about a Marxist regime, that qons were being "censored" (lol), and so on....that's some serious derangement.

[-] ceenote@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

We live in a world where people worship a businessman/politician as the literal second coming of their messiah, but "Trump Derangement Syndrome" refers to people who are critical of a convicted felon who openly ran for office to kill further prosecutions against him

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