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Red Bull - European but Far right

Buy European but ... Also with ethical considerations.

Red Bull might sound cool, but they have their own TV station in Austria. (servus TV) And that station js beyond far right. Spreading disinformation, and Russian propaganda, Corona Bullshi, Ivermectint, cleaning stuff with chlorid, climate change deniers, ... If there is a conspiracy they support it ...

(And it's also not very healthy,....)

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[-] lazycog@feddit.uk 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

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Edit: locking discussion as we don't have enough resources to keep an eye on this post.

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[-] treno_rosso@feddit.org 91 points 1 month ago

I try to buy european but i think it's important to remind ourselves that we have shit companies in Europe that don't deserve our business. Red Bull, Nestlé, Müllermilch all these mf can suck it.

[-] Grizzlyboy@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago

I'd also throw Bayer into that list. Knowingly had HIV contaminated blood, considered the amount of money they'd lose by destroying it, so they supplied it to patients in Latin America and Asia. Bayer considered the investment they had in the contaminated product, decided NOT to destroy it, for profits sake, and infected thousands of people with it. They misrepresented the results to not lose money and killed thousands.

I know pharmaceutical companies is a giant mess, but Bayer is on par with Nestle for me.

[-] frengo@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

Following this logic i'd end up buying nothing or absolute crap. Example: i really liked Kellogg's corn flakes and i tried to switch to a local brand (Cerealitalia) but unfortunately is tastes bad. In the biggest supermarket of my town it's Kellogg's, Nestlè or Cerealitalia so it's US, shitty company or shitty product. Same goes for Coca Cola: it's Coca Cola, Pepsi or the coke with the same brand of the supermarket (tastes meh). I'm trying but it's not easy at all.

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[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago

I am permanently banned from making Reddit accounts because I got about 4 of them banned for "promoting violence".

The violence? Telling people it was a good thing to punch Nazis. Reddit is a Nazi safe space.

[-] docfate@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

I got a warning for upvoting pro-Canada stuff like "elbows up". That is apparently promoting violence.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

Well yeah, you're promoting the same kind of violence that Ukraine continues to perpetrate on Russia.

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[-] CalipherJones@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Yeah, at this point Reddit is a sinking ship. Been using it for so long too. A little sad to see it go, but it's a shell of what it used to be.

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[-] bampop@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Remember when you could say things like "The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi"? Wasn't even that long ago.

Seriously, fuck Nazis. All of a sudden you've got Nazis in government and we're supposed to act like you should tolerate that shit. Hmmm.

[-] WaitThisIsntReddit@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

Yep, permanently banned here for "ban evasion" though I only know 1 sub I was banned from and I never went there after. That's okay, helped me quit what is clearly a hollow shell of user participation filled with a corpo bot sludge. It's really easy to VPN up and make another account anyway, but why play in the garbage heap?

[-] androidul@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

o Reddit is no place for normal people

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[-] FundMECFSResearch 63 points 1 month ago

It also tastes like shit and is prohibitively expensive compared to many energy drink brands

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 1 month ago

Also has even higher chances of giving you kidney stones than other sodas iirc

[-] StitchIsABitch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

But isn't that all energy drinks? Not that I have any clue, the only times I ever drank them was when I was 17 and they were mixed with vodka.

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[-] Silk@lemm.ee 54 points 1 month ago

They also support Israel's apartheid and occupation, they are listed on the NoThanks app.

[-] evasive_chimpanzee@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

It's also owned by the creator of the original Red Bull in Thailand, which is a different company, but it's named after an extreme right wing paramilitary https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Gaurs

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[-] wuzzlewoggle@feddit.org 44 points 1 month ago

Holy shit what is up with the reddit mods? I posted a screenshot of a Mastodon post there yesterday, that basically said if youre switching us big tech for eu big tech you're not doing enough and that we have to support decentralized tech. Deleted in 5 minutes because it "posts should be relevant to european made products"

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[-] superkret@feddit.org 37 points 1 month ago

But also be mindful of the fact that the more rules you add for people to be part of a movement, the less members the movement will have.
The "Buy European" protest is about sending a message of resistance against the current US regime, as well as reducing reliance on US products.
It doesn't require you to only buy ethically spotless products.
That simply isn't possible in our system.

[-] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 23 points 1 month ago

The post is not a "rule". OP didn't even ask people to stop using Red Bull. I'm glad to have more information.

If you really enjoy Red Bull, you're an adult, make your choices. Personally, I can take it or leave it, so I'll choose to leave it.

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[-] renzhexiangjiao 31 points 1 month ago

idk about r/buyFromEU but r/europe on reddit is pretty right-wing

[-] peto@lemm.ee 24 points 1 month ago

I think the buy EU thing (and for that matter, all this trade war bullshit) is one of those things that claims to be apolitical but is inherently nationalistic and so massively popular with/supported by/in support of the authoritarian right.

One of those salt of saturn political things that lets people pretend they aren't right-wing.

[-] renzhexiangjiao 22 points 1 month ago

we shouldn't dismiss the movement as a whole just because some rightwingers are a part of it, but our choices with regard to consumption should be more nuanced than America bad, Europe good.

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[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 14 points 1 month ago

Right-wing is when not wanting to buy from fascists

[-] peto@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

Exactly what I am talking about. Plenty of facists in the EU, plenty of non-facists outside the EU. Make your decision based on the politics of the people you are buying from, not what flag they wrap around themselves.

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[-] koper@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

The point is that fascism is not unique to the US, i.e. not everyone from the US is fascist and the EU also has fascists. To imply that universally EU=good and US=bad is nationalistic. Just be aware thay this sentiment may also attract people who join out of a sense of national pride rather than anti-fascism.

[-] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 9 points 1 month ago

The US is lead by a fascist and a fascist party. Most of the EU isn't. I also don't buy stuff from Italy for the same reason.

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[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 22 points 1 month ago

Without reading the actual post, and my sole reaction to the thread title is: you can purchase Reddit mods?

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[-] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 month ago

10 to 15 years back when I still watched tv, I loved Servus TV: news, lots of documentaries, reports and some panel shows. Like, TV before enshittification. Absolutely nothing even remotely close to what this post is suggesting. Has it gone down since then, or is this post misinformation? Can anybody who's still watching TV confirm this?

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[-] Bosht@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Wait really? I live in the US granted but I don't want to support any company that does heinous shit like this.

[-] pumpkinseedoil@mander.xyz 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

It's greatly exaggerated, on ServusTV they just have all kind of people, so sometimes stupid people are there too. They have this format „Rechts-Links-Mitte“ (right left center) where they typically have around five people with heavily varying positions discussing with each other. So no, it's not them supporting conspiracies but rather trying to find people for these discussions. On the other hand it means that the others get the chance to debunk fake news and conspiracies in those discussions, potentially getting viewers to change their position. You don't achieve that by making these people not watch any discussions because "their guy" isn't there anyway.

Before our election I liked watching their news since the ORF (öffentlich rechtlicher Rundfunk - our official TV where all the important stuff is) only talked about what's wrong with so many people to make them vote for the FPÖ (far right party) and how they could be made reasonable again (blame on the people for voting for that party) while Servus TV talked about why people are voting for them and what other parties potentially could change to gain them back (blame on the parties for making decisions that led to losing voters to the FPÖ) (to clarify, I didn't vote for the FPÖ and never world, I'm heavily opposing quite a few of their policies - regardless I can't deny that they wouldn't be as strong if our other parties acted differently, many people simply are voting for the FPÖ to express their protest which is why its good to discuss about what the other parties should change).

ServusTV also has great documentaries (mostly about Austria and neighbouring countries, for example about a group of mountains (sometimes even singular mountains), or about hiking trails, mountainbiking routes, ski touring, climbing, about a river, a lake, a city, a castle, a church, ...).

My favourite aspect is that Red Bull heavily invests in sports, sponsoring many people that wouldn't be able to follow their (often niche) sport without them.

Absolutely not a company that deserves a boycott imo. (I don't buy anything from them though because I usually only drink water.)

[-] SwordOfOtto@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

That's a half truth.

In that Format mentioned, they always make sure to have a 4 to 1 superiority in numbers against any center or left people and also only have them there for show. It is designed to tell people, that they are open for discussion. But in truth they spread far right propaganda and Russian propaganda. (Which is the same in Austria, since the FPÖ is famously "brought" and backed bay Putin.).

Recently their main host description of Ukraine was "drug fueled Nazi war mongers who attacked Russia".

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[-] Ethanol@pawb.social 8 points 1 month ago

This sounds dangerous tbh. I do not really watch ServusTV, nor do I know much about Red Bull business practices but stuff like the "Rechts-Links-Mitte" format sounds like they're giving right wing extremists a platform to spread their misinformation and rhetoric. It might sound like a good idea to have opinions from all different kinds of people but media companies should have a moral duty to educate viewers and not foster misinformation by acknowledging every single opinion. That's why you should be careful with things like these.

Furthermore the wikipedia article does mention ServusTV spreading misinformation about the covid vaccines, citing DerStandard and Tagesschau articles from 2021.

So all in all it seems the political reports on ServusTV should be taken with some suspicion. That does not mean they can't have nice documentaries or sport broadcasts though.

As for Red Bull, they can't really let ServusTV spread misinformation without actually supporting it. Probably makes them more money in some way. Might be a good idea to try out a suitable alternative energy drink if there is one.

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[-] elrecoal19_1@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

DON'T. LET. PERFECT. BE. THE. ENEMY. OF. GOOD

It's still European, even though not ideal. What's worse, to fund right-wing nuts (here or elsewhere), or to fund a (probably in the making) fascist state?

[-] Seleni@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

I think you might want to make an exception for far-right loonies, as a far-right loony getting into power is what started this whole shitstorm.

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[-] xep@fedia.io 13 points 1 month ago

Nothing in Redbull is good for you, it's full of sugar, and it comes in a can. Cans are lined with plastic that bleed estrogenic chemicals into the beverage. I've cut canned drinks out of my life entirely.

[-] sniggleboots@lemm.ee 14 points 1 month ago

Cans are lined with plastic that bleed estrogenic chemicals into the beverage

I did some quick looking through ~~google~~ Ecosia and I found some stuff that (seemingly? I'm not an expert) confirms this. It made sweeping statements about pretty much all plastic, though. Do you still drink stuff from plastic bottles?

This sounds like a snide comment but it's not, I'm interested because I currently still drink both from cans and plastic bottles!

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[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Studies show that there are around 10-20 microplastic particles per liter in canned beverages. Carbonated sodas contain more (6-82), possibly due to the carbonation breaking down the lining in the can.

For comparison:

So if you're going to avoid anything, avoid.... tea bags, of all things.

[-] missandry351@lemmings.world 10 points 1 month ago

I didn’t know redbull was European and I didn’t know servus tv belonged to redbull

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[-] brrt@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

Bullshit they actively promoting anti corona, pro Putin and far right wing plebs for the last 10 years now! I live in Austria and it's ridiculous you try defend them. Yes they were an awesome tv station back then )until 2017. But nowadays it's just a hate tv!

[-] OrlandoDoom@feddit.uk 8 points 1 month ago

In the UK, not a fan of tea or coffee. I rarely use caffeine at all, but there are some days where I'm falling asleep at my desk and I need something.

Any recommendations?

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[-] Ashenlux 8 points 1 month ago

Damn, red bull is my energy drink of choice. Anyone got a good alternative that doesn't use alternative sweetener? So many of them use them and I can't stand the flavor they have.

[-] Apocalypteroid@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago
[-] v4ld1z@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago

Any off-brand energy is fine. Aldi has a pretty good one though it does use artificial sweeteners instead of, or in combination with, sugar.

Alternatively, give mate a try. Mio Mio has lots of flavours to choose from. The classic Club Mate is also always a gold choice. Pomegranate and peach iced tea are my favourites :)

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[-] gorillaNdaMist@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago

after having lived in Austria..I'm not buying anything from that racist nazi country.

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