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[-] Hairyblue@kbin.social 100 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Both sides are not the same. Republicans are the ones who don't want to help the workers and lower/middle class. Tax the rich and the big business. Make public college free, make healthcare free, make child care free. How? Tax the rich and big businesses. They have hoarded all the money we generated for them. (They are using it to create space ships for fun and buying up EVERYTHING). If they want to do business in the USA tax them. Stop voting for republicans, they don't care about our democracy. Get more liberal justices on the supreme court to fix what republicans have done to our rights. Money shouldn't be speech and corporations are not people.

I'm sure that Republicans right now are trying to stop student debt relief, again. Stop voting for them. They have no policies to help the workers. Only tax cuts for the rich and hate, i.e. woke, i.e. minorites, LGBT, women, non Christains, and diversity.

[-] traveler@lemdro.id 15 points 2 years ago

None of the parties is interested in doing what you’re talking about.

[-] NewAgeOldPerson@reddthat.com 33 points 2 years ago

There is one party that's literally, not metaphorically, trying to get student debt relief. And reproductive rights. Other isn't.

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Remind me cuz I seem to have forgotten which party recently busted up a union strike, which one refused to repeal Trump's tax cuts for the wealthy, and worked directly with McConnell to make the bush tax cuts for the wealthy permanent, who was the one that forced for profit health care system on us and then mandated everyone participate? Which one was it? That should have gone through the higher education act to eliminate student debt but followed a route that was destined to fail? Which one is it that is now overfunding cops to the extent of pushing and funding cop city in Atlanta, to further subjugate minority communities, which party passed a far overreaching crime bill that specifically targeted black males, and the for-profit prison system that he's used to house them in? Which party had the crime bill that was so restrictive that it went too far for even Reagan, and he had to insert it into the violence against women act so people would not vote against it, which party was that?

[-] Cabrio@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

All concessions to Republican control. Don't blame the party stopping progress, blame the progressives. What a joke.

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[-] Daft_ish@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

You right, let's get rid of all the conservatives from the Democrat party.

I'm all for it

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 56 points 2 years ago

Y'know, the only reason the Democrats struggle to win at all is that sometime in the post-Nixon era they collectively decided to stop standing up for labor's buying power. When they did this, (which helped them a lot in terms of their ability to get corporate donors to finance their elections), it meant that working people would go from having 1 party represent labor to 0 parties doing that.

In the 50s an entry-level job that a high-school graduate could get would support a family, buy a home and a couple of cars, and pay out a retirement. Today, that job won't even pay for an apartment without roommates.

That right there is the whole reason the GOP is a viable political party at the federal level- with both parties beholden to corporate donors, winning elections is more or less a matter of spending money on campaign ads attacking the other party because neither party has to do anything that voters want

[-] SuddenDownpour@sh.itjust.works 17 points 2 years ago

As things stand right now, the GOP's platform is "let's pick a scapegoat to exhume the lower classes' frustrations", while the Democrats' is "let's not do that". It's no wonder why the Dems can only garner around ~27% of all elegible votes (vs the Republicans' ~25%), most of their voters don't particularly like their politicians nor their policies, they just don't want to be governed by fucking crazies.

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[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 47 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

For anyone that wants to really know exactly what the conservatives plan to do against the American people, read their ”Project 2025: Mandate for Leadership."

At least read the Forward, but here's the whole PDF:

https://thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/project2025/2025_MandateForLeadership_FULL.pdf

The rhetoric just in the Forward is frightening, disgusting, and dangerous.

We MUST vote for the Democrats if we're going to maintain any semblance of real freedom for everyone and not just conservative white people.

[-] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 25 points 2 years ago

(Side note, I found it hilarious that the "Forward" felt like it was 1000 pages down. And reading that much BS made me feel gross.)

Ok so, the Project 2025 thing is terrifying. Their Forward is terrifying. They have no plan for making this country better for anyone except themselves. They state very clearly they want to delete anything they don't like.

They want to ban books and open discussions.

They want to deny racism exists or ever existed.

They want to deny that biology exists outside of their narrow minded beliefs.

They want to force a single religion on everyone.

They cite problems and point the finger at everyone except themselves.

As if it wasn't abundantly clear at this point based on their ACTIONS what Republican rule will be... And yet we still have millions of people fully invested in that cult of hate and fear.

[-] Peddlephile@lemm.ee 22 points 2 years ago

I'm not American, but reading the Foreword was just plain scary to me since it comes from a major party. There's nothing about economics and all about moral outrage. You guys need to diversify your parties somehow.

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[-] just_change_it@lemmy.world 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

no no no he has it all wrong. It's the party of the WORKING class. E.g. they are going to put you all TO WORK.

Keeping the wealth with the wealthy means you get to work for them. They're in charge don't you see? We're just their worker bees. There's enough of us that we don't need healthcare. Education is a luxury for the children of the wealthy elite, NOT the workers. The dumber and more ignorant the worker the less they need to offer them in compensation. If you don't know better, you don't ask for more!

It's all about being the smartest in the room. Why do good things for people when you can just fuck them over and have them sing your praises? This is why they want to teach that slavery taught valuable skills. They want to enslave us, and they are slowly doing that generation after generation with income disparities. Pretty soon we'll work our whole lives just to subsist and owning a home will be only afforded to the wealthy elite. The rest of us will work for them in the form of rent and they will be our land LORDS.

It's definitely the party of workers. More workers! Work for your owners!

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago

BuT hOw ArE wE gOnNa aFfOrD iT!?!?!?!??!?!?!!?

the fucking pentagon can't account, literally cannot conceive, of where more than two thirds of its budget WENT.

Of almost a TRILLION DOLLARS, 886 billion dollars, they only know where ONE THIRD of it went.

That ~600 Billion Dollars have afforded all those things.

[-] AzPsycho@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

The Pentagon does know where there money goes but they are never going to tell a committee of idiots who cannot keep a damn thing secret. If you can't trust even the President to not run his mouth or expose classified satellite capabilities to our enemies then why would they ever tell anyone in politics where that money is going? I want a transparent govt as much as the next person but it isn't going to happen.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

They're legally required to tell those things, and democracy is not built on secrecy.

This is the major interest point for me in UAP investigations - it looks exceedingly likely that the Pentagon is embezzling some of those funds through "pet projects" that are all legacy, ultra-secret, unaccountable, and need to produce nothing.

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[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

Americans are wage slaves to our government

[-] Shadywack@lemmy.world 13 points 2 years ago

Americans are wage slaves to ~~our government~~ the wealthy. FTFY

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[-] rigatti@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago
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[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 27 points 2 years ago

"Oh no no no, you misunderstand, we're the party of WORKING the lower CLASSES to death, gotta read that fine print". - Lionel Hutz, GOP Supreme Court Justice Candidate

[-] Dinodicchellathicc@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

This is not a meme.

[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

It never was 🌎 👩‍🚀🔫👩‍🚀

[-] imgonnatrythis@lemm.ee 11 points 2 years ago

It's just do much more obvious now. The only real values holding this shell of a "party" together are fear and hatred. Emotions >> platforms/issues in modern politics. It's pathetic, and this complete death grip on a two party system will ultimately kill American democracy.

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[-] Transcriptionist@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

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X/Twitter post by user Robert Reich @RBReich reading: "The Republican Party is against:

  • National paid family and medical leave
  • Universal childcare
  • Universal pre-K
  • Tax increases on the wealthy and corporations
  • The expanded Child Tax Credit
  • Student debt relief

Doesn't sound like the party of the working class to me."

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[-] Wilshire@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The Republican Party is against:

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[-] Shatur@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 years ago

I'm not American, so I curious why they have only two parties?

[-] elFlexor@lemmy.world 49 points 2 years ago

Their election system (basically winner-takes-all) pretty much guarantees that it will converge in a two-party system with roughly 50/50 share and people voting for "the lesser evil" rather than their favourite. If a third challenger appears, it will split the voter base of the more close candidate and guarantee a huge victory for the farther candidate (the opposite of what the challenger stands for). So essentially it's doomed to be a bipartisan circlejerk unless the election system itself is changed.

[-] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Ranked choice voting seems to be the solution

However, both parties are against it because neither want to give up power

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[-] BigNote@lemm.ee 13 points 2 years ago

Correct. Also worth saying that because it was designed by rich white male British colonists over 200 years ago who deliberately made it almost impossible to change, our system is hopelessly outdated and very difficult to upgrade. This is especially true when there are certain demographics that get a ton of over representation through the existing system.

[-] sturmblast@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

There are more parties than two, they just aren't very popular

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[-] bizzle@midwest.social 11 points 2 years ago

Lmfao I'm pretty sure liberals also hate the working class, watch them talk about rural people for 5 seconds. The utter disdain for rural working class people is a real thing.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

There are rural Democrats. You know that, right? It's not a monolith.

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[-] Magzmak@lemmy.world 20 points 2 years ago

Rural people are the foundation of this country and need the most support for they often are over looked. Probably because they vote for people that don't have their well beings in mind.

[-] Nahlej@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago

You seem to be implying that the only "real" working class people are rural. Do all the working class folks that live in the burbs and cities not count?

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[-] Lutz69@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

The only reason I dislike them is because they actively vote against their best interests for the people who are fucking this country and planet into the ground. I just don't understand them... As people, they're fine. Voters, not so much.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Rural people as in the people who consistently vote for and cheer for all the vile shit Republicans want to force on us? Gosh, why would we have anything against those people?

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