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[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 143 points 5 months ago

I worked for a company once that installed a remote-activation killswitch in their drivers, as a secret weapon to force the customer to stay current on their maintenance contract.

The CEO was a fuckup however, and the code killed their system even without being activated - resulting in a bunch of angry phonecalls and some of the most egregious lying I've ever heard.

god, he was a piece of shit

[-] _core@sh.itjust.works 33 points 5 months ago

Sounds like lawsuit territory

[-] GhostlyPixel@lemmy.world 135 points 5 months ago

This kill switch, the DOJ said, appeared to have been created by Lu because it was named "IsDLEnabledinAD," which is an apparent abbreviation of "Is Davis Lu enabled in Active Directory."

Lu named these codes using the Japanese word for destruction, "Hakai," and the Chinese word for lethargy, "HunShui,"

[Lu]’s "disappointed" in the jury's verdict and plans to appeal

No, this guy is cooked, there’s even evidence of him looking up how to hide processes and quickly delete files, absolutely no way an appeal would work out for him, I don’t think an “I got hacked” argument is going to work.

[-] db2@lemmy.world 72 points 5 months ago

It would only work if he owned the code and the company stopped paying. There's lots of precedent for that.

[-] Lv_InSaNe_vL@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

Still probably not. The code also deleted files, deleted accounts, and created infinite loops which took down large chunks of the network and infrastructure.

You could take your code, but you can't take down the company.

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[-] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 124 points 5 months ago

Lol everyone probably fantasizes about such thing sometimes, but even if you weren't caught, it's not worth it to personally be bitter like that.

Just got laid off and could had done the same. Except I don't have to. Internal systems are so bad and undocumented and I was like only IT specialist there who could use linux, and so many things related to core businesses were just basically behind me.

The kill switch has made it self. Funny how I would have written more documentation if I ever was given the time.

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 65 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Same for my last job. My bosses and managers harassed and insulted me. They said I was useless and stupid.

I quit with 3 months of "notice" (standard in France to help you find a new job). They didn’t care during those 3 months. In the last week they panicked because they could not find a replacement that did everything I fixed every day.

I also interviewed my replacement, a junior out of school with big diplomas. When I asked if he knew Linux, he said "not really." I thought "they are fucked with this guy." They wanted to hire him because he was the son of some guy. I said to my boss that he would be a perfect fit for the company.

Unknowingly I was the kill switch. I sent them one last email with all the information they needed and told them to go fuck themselves in a polite way.

[-] isolatedscotch@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 4 months ago

malicious compliance, I like it

[-] prole 25 points 4 months ago

but even if you weren't caught, it's not worth it to personally be bitter like that.

Really depends on what you do for a living... Non-profit? Sure. Weapons manufacturer? Fucking have at it.

[-] kkj@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 4 months ago

But don't be stupid about it. Stash a date somewhere that you manually update every so often (so that it'll stop being updated if you're fired) and then add a bunch of random waits whose durations scale with the time since that date. If you're worried that the code will be found, comment it with some bullshit about avoiding race conditions.

...and now I can't use that idea, since this comment would be used in court. If I did it to a weapons manufacturer, they'd probably get the death penalty somehow.

[-] porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml 8 points 4 months ago

comment it with some bullshit about avoiding race conditions

Lmao, amazing

[-] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 12 points 4 months ago

Fair but I wouldn't ever work for weapons manufacturing. Also sabotage in that context would have heavy punishment, and at worst could cause collateral damage.

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[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

I didn't plant anything and I could still brick the production backends of a former employer because some poor ass decisions were made when choosing technologies and then when I pointed it out that it's pretty bad the technology was stuck with so literally all it takes is sending 2-3 requests so all pods die.

But why do it.

[-] S13Ni@lemmy.studio 9 points 5 months ago

Similar cases with my old company. In my case people who would had suffered the most direct consequences would had been my colleagues who I respect.

But I could totally cause trouble without any backdoor access.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 95 points 4 months ago

I’m disappointed they found so much in his search history. Do these people not have phones? In this day and age with everyone carrying a smartphone, there’s no excuse for using work computers for personal activities

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

In this day and age with everyone carrying a smartphone, there’s no excuse for using work computers for personal activities

There are plenty of reasons, mostly amounting to "Nobody tends to give a fuck" and "I'm not running out to buy a second high end laptop just to casually browse the web from my couch on the weekend".

What you've got is a very poorly enforced, very draconianly executed set of deliberately vague and inarticulate rules that vary from company to company. And none of that really has anything to do with the "kill switch" thing. In the same way you might say "Well but obviously nobody should smoke weed in a state that criminalizes it! That's just stupid!" when you've got the police tearing apart a particular person's house for a completely unrelated issue, based on an officer's exclamation of "I smell weed!" at the front porch.

Just accept you live in a police state and stop buying into excuses made to surveil and punish.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 8 points 4 months ago

I’m not running out to buy a second high end laptop just to casually browse the web

Even the cheapest laptop or tablet will cover that need

But when you’re at work, planning criminal activities, the least you can do is save your searches for “how to be a criminal mastermind” on your personal phone

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 27 points 4 months ago

Did it say they went through his work search history? Everything you search on Google with your IP or through your account is recorded, in case law enforcement knocks. Don’t think using a phone protects you. Use a trusted VPN in a separate browser if you want to search for things and not have them show up in court.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago

I think that what happens on a work computer, a work network, belongs to the company and they are free to check it at will.

However my phone, and what happens on the network it’s attached to are between me and my provider, and usually needs a warrant for someone to look through.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 19 points 4 months ago

don't underestimate how lazy and stupid even the smartest person can be.

[-] Korkki@lemmy.ml 80 points 5 months ago

Why do kill switches when you can just hog all the work of maintaining some critical part of the infrastructure and make it's functioning and maintenance so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can't replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after. It doesn't have to be malicious or illegal.

https://youtu.be/0jK0ytvjv-E

His efforts to sabotage their network began that year, and by the next year, he had planted different forms of malicious code, creating "infinite loops" that deleted coworker profile files, preventing legitimate logins and causing system crashes

I wish this guy was were actually politically motivated, but he seems to have been just really petty minded person.

[-] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 26 points 5 months ago

Why do kill switches when you can just hog all the work of maintaining some critical part of the infrastructure and make it's functioning and maintenance so opaque and impenetrable that the employer can't replace or fire you without their shit catching fire soon after.

This is literally my firm's core business practice. We've been at it for so long that at this point we have to be included in competing bids because we are the only ones in the world that can do certain specific things.

[-] Railcar8095@lemm.ee 12 points 5 months ago

That's what my old company used to do. You did this? Do a KT to some underpaid remote employee and when they leave it's again your responsibility to maintain it, alongside the new bugs and spaghetti they introduced.

We once told a SP50 customer that we would not provide a business critical service because an employee went on sabatical for a month and she had the only working version on her cookery computer. At that point the customer was so integrated with us that it would take them years to replace us.

[-] Gonzako@lemmy.world 62 points 5 months ago

So when company do it it's fine but when we do it to companies it's not?

[-] palordrolap@fedia.io 19 points 5 months ago

Naturally. Advantage, privilege and money should only be in the hands of those who run large companies or better.

If that made you angry, bear in mind that's what most top level company executives think. Well, actually they don't think it, they know it unconsciously as the true order of the universe they inhabit and they get really uncomfortable should it even look vaguely like someone might be trying a competing philosophy to their own.

To be fair though, most people get really uncomfortable when something might undermine even part of the philosophy they live by.

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[-] Cinder_bloc@lemmy.world 58 points 4 months ago

Every person that has worked in a sysadmin type role, has joked about doing something like this. Very few actually carry through with it. So, in a way, I kinda like this guy for actually doing it, even if he didn’t cover his tracks very well.

[-] sundrei@lemmy.sdf.org 56 points 5 months ago

For the last time, I didn't leave a kill switch -- I just refused to document anything!

[-] ka1ikasan@lemmy.zip 8 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

You are truly a madman

Edit: or a madlady

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[-] glitch1985@lemmy.world 42 points 4 months ago

I'd argue that he gave them extra code, a bonus if you will.

[-] Vanth@reddthat.com 35 points 5 months ago

Initially makes me wonder how the employer could be so dumb as to give one employee so much access. But then I remember a former employer of mine did the same and worse.

Colleague was known for writing his comments in such a way that only he could read them, including mixing in German (US based company doing all business in English). He was also the admin of our CAD system and would use it as leverage to get his way on things, including not giving even default user access to engineers he didn't like. We migrated systems and everyone was thinking, "this is it, the chance to root this guy out of the admin position" and... they gave him admin access again. Not even our IT department had the access he had. I left before the guy retired / was fired, this post is making me wonder if he left peacefully or left bricking the CAD system out.

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[-] roz 35 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)
[-] IHeartBadCode@fedia.io 34 points 5 months ago

Oh yeah, but the thing that usually offsets the intrusive thoughts is a lot of courts treat this as the crime of "hurting rich people" which comes with like 30 years in pound you in the ass penitentiary.

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[-] jaemo@sh.itjust.works 32 points 4 months ago

Talk about incentivizing us to make even more impactful kill switches!

[-] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 28 points 5 months ago

A 55-year-old software developer

... and...

Lu had worked at Eaton Corp. for about 11 years when he apparently became disgruntled by a corporate "realignment" in 2018 that "reduced his responsibilities," the DOJ said.

So he was 48 at the time he started this. Was he planning on retiring from all work at 48? I can't imagine any other employer would want to touch him with a 10ft (3.048 meters) pole after he actively sabotaged his prior employer's codebase causing global outages.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 8 points 5 months ago

I'm sure DOGE is actively considering hiring him.

[-] captainjaneway@lemmy.world 24 points 5 months ago

He fucked up. But it's also kinda funny.

[-] mostlikelyaperson@lemmy.world 22 points 4 months ago

Tbh, what shocks me the most about this is how sloppy this appears to have been executed.

[-] cupcakezealot 22 points 4 months ago

and unlike dennis nedry, he didn't have to get killed by a dinosaur to do it.

[-] Earflap@reddthat.com 17 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I developed a spreadsheet for a company I worked for a few jobs ago. When I left I used a picture of Dennis to lock everyone out of the spreadsheet but only for one day, months after I left. Stupid idea, but felt good.

Edit: this was it:

[-] cookedslug@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago

guy really tagged his name on the kill function, which was running on his own system. smh my head

[-] yeahiknow3@lemmings.world 16 points 5 months ago

That’s hilarious.

[-] hesusingthespiritbomb@lemmy.world 12 points 4 months ago

Dude should have just added comments indicating that the code was part of some security test but was unfinished and extremely dangerous.

Change a few file names, add a comment how it will never run under normal circumstances, and you've got plausible deniability.

[-] DrunkenPirate@feddit.org 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

And now imagine doing this or sort of this destruction in a smaller company that has one to three mediocre admins at highest. One can kill this company and they would never get it why the computers got weird.

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