1449
top 50 comments
sorted by: hot top controversial new old
[-] KuroiKaze@lemmy.world 137 points 1 month ago

The behind the bastards episode will teach you a lot about this piece of shit. Wozniak is the genius, this is just another predatory businessman. Good riddance.

[-] Hawke@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Yknow, while I 90% agree with you there seems to be some element between the technical genius (Wozniak) and the idiot businessman that is Tim Apple.

Jobs may have been a piece of shit but there’s something to be said for the uncompromising non-technical focus on UX that allowed Jobs to make the iPhone a success.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 36 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sure Wozniak invented the Apple I and II. But if he never met Jobs his inventions would have stayed a hobby and Apple would have never existed. Woz also didn’t push for an OS with a GUI (which was revolutionary back then) that was Jobs’ idea. Not to mention that Woz had nothing to do with Apple’s comeback. He has been an honorary employee since Jobs was fired. Woz is a genius but people give him way too much credit just like they do with Jobs.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Michal@programming.dev 13 points 1 month ago

Wow, they made 4 episodes about him, each over an hour long.

Haven't listened to Behind The Bastards but will give this one a listen.

load more comments (1 replies)
load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Tiger_Man_ 121 points 1 month ago
[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago

Not to mention the actual pioneer of generic-text languages, the inventor of the compiler, Grace Hopper.

https://www.biography.com/scientist/grace-hopper

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 35 points 1 month ago

well one is good at selling stuff including himself

[-] boonhet@lemm.ee 21 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My crusading teenage ass posted this in 2011 on social media. Nobody cared lol

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago

I highly doubt the consequences of Dennis Richie not existing. Yes, his work was foundational, but he didn't do it on his own, and if he wasn't around, someone else would've filled in.

The same is true for Steve Jobs. In fact, most of his contribution was being a jerk to people so his ideas won. He had a clear vision, but his internal implementation was... iffy.

[-] WhiskyTangoFoxtrot@lemmy.world 86 points 1 month ago

He tried to fight P.C. with apples.

[-] JDPoZ@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Jesus Christ. That is fucking poetry.

[-] Unpigged@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 1 month ago

I mean, fucking up is a common thing people do and is an integral part of the human condition. What should be emphasized about Jobs case is that he fucked up his own liver, learned the cause and treatments, used his wealth to cut in the waiting line to get a liver transplant, and then fucked his second liver just the same way. This is the definition of terminally stupid, and no UX focus will ever change that.

load more comments (8 replies)
[-] LucidLyes@lemmy.world 60 points 1 month ago

Jobs paved the way for Musk. I hate that he's so often cited as a genius to look up to in the tech world

People mistaking Marketing people for tech genies happens to often.

[-] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 17 points 1 month ago

I find it really amusing to know Bill Gates ones made fun of him:

"Steve's achievements are all the more impressive when you know that he couldn't look at a piece of code and know what it was."

However he also said:

"Clearly, he had so many skills that I didn't, but we were both a little bit pied pipers in terms of getting people to work ridiculous hours."

Which really should tell you everything you need to know given who made the money and how many people were made to work "ridiculous hours".

[-] ArtVandelay@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

The behind the bastards episodes on Jobs was really eye-opening to just how awful of a leader he was

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] Juice@midwest.social 56 points 1 month ago

Being rich makes you so divorced from consequences that you start to believe that what is in your brain is what is real. Money isn't what we think it is.

[-] shortrounddev@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Money is like radioactive material. Having a little bit in your house probably is fine but having a mountain of it will make you hole up in a Las Vegas hotel with tissue boxes for shoes

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] BrundleFly2077@sh.itjust.works 12 points 1 month ago

These words resonate so hard with me that my head is ringing like a bell right now. “Money isn’t what we think it is.” ^5, you.

[-] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 52 points 1 month ago

Also bought his way up the organ donor list even after he took so long ignoring it, passing over a bunch of people who should have had claim to it and some who died instead, all just so he could die anyway because he took too long to get treatment. Failed so hard multiple people died.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago

Source on this? I read that Tim Apple offered a donation and Steve refused. I have not read that he had the surgery.

[-] Sporkbomber@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago

He did get a transplant, in TN. Not in CA where he lived. He used his wealth to add himself to a areas with more donors and fewer on the wait list because he could hop on a jet unlike normal plebians.

load more comments (4 replies)
[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Only fanboys. The same kind that worship Musk or any other fellated-by-the-press CEO as some kind of hero. They softball any criticisms and turn them into positives - “He murdered a bunch of kids, but the creativity he got from the blood splatter and time spent in court-ordered community service got us this addictive device we’re all fawning over…let’s justify the ridiculous price and wait in line for one!” Something about objectively shitty people heading up organizations seems to attract sycophants and bootlickers.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] hOrni@lemmy.world 42 points 1 month ago

Imagine how insufferable he would be today.

[-] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

Couldn't be worse than Muskrat.

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] wieson@feddit.org 39 points 1 month ago

Back on the old site on one of those text based subreddits there was a question posted:

Would you rather have free WiFi wherever you go, or any apple product you wish at any time.

My (then unrotted) brain was like: mmh WiFi everywhere is good, but apple cake, apple pie, apple sauce, apple spritz, apple cider, apple strudel, dried apples... Yeah I'm going with apple products

[-] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Wifi might become obsolete some time in the future, but apple pie is eternal.

[-] Slovene@feddit.nl 9 points 1 month ago

Until Jimbo fucks it.

[-] Artyom@lemm.ee 30 points 1 month ago

Before he died, he did say it was one of his biggest regrets.

[-] ivanovsky@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

"one of", not "the"? Now I'm wondering what could someone like him regret more than the choice that literally killed him?

[-] goldteeth@lemmy.dbzer0.com 34 points 1 month ago

"Sometimes, late at night, when I can't sleep, and it's just me, alone with my thoughts... I just... I can't help but feel... I should've called it Pear."

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] dditty@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Maybe his tumultuous relationship with his daughter Lisa

load more comments (3 replies)
[-] cdkg@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago

Steve jobs ain't a genius. He was just a good salesman.

[-] Juice@midwest.social 15 points 1 month ago

The sales people almost always end up doing well in companies. And then when they get high up in the company they only value others ability to make sales and work for bonuses. As time goes on a company's e-suite gets more and more saturated with charismatic dummies who will do anything for a buck, leaving less room for good administrators and engineers.

load more comments (1 replies)
[-] orcrist@lemm.ee 27 points 1 month ago

I was reading an interesting article the other day about how after World War II people were obviously opposed to populism, and by the '80s and certainly the '90s people that were born after the war had lost the awareness of the danger that hero worship creates.

At the same time, many organizations including government organizations had failed to update themselves over the years, so people romanticized the idea of someone walking in and magically making the correct snap judgments that would remedy the situation. This was so pervasive in the business world I think in part because it allowed corporate executives to justify f****** over ordinary employees. If the company makes or breaks because of one person at the top, who cares if you're paying people minimum wage and they can't even afford to pay for dental care or a car.

What amazed me is how long that vision of Steve Jobs stuck around. Even in recent years people have been praising him, but if you think of the value in his company, it's mostly a load of s***. Those phones and computers are incredibly overpriced, and they have so many bad aspects, especially lock-in, which most people intuitively understand these days. And still we have Apple addicts.

load more comments (16 replies)
[-] funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works 27 points 1 month ago

I never like to let people forget the raw fruit diet comes from a cult that believes people from Venus told us that's the key to eternal life

load more comments (7 replies)
[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

I'd be far more interested in learning more about the other folks on the Macintosh team. They're an amazing group of people who put a lot of care into something they believed in, Steve Jobs notwithstanding. What they did with what they had was amazing, and the fact that they got lost in Jobs' spotlight is tragic.

[-] narfer@lemm.ee 23 points 1 month ago

This 😂. A fucking genius choosing pseudoscience...

[-] rockettaco37@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago

He might've been a marketing genius

Oncology... not so much

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

where’s the lie?

[-] Little8Lost@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

An apple a day keeps the doctor away

load more comments (2 replies)
[-] Dudewitbow@lemmy.zip 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

being smart at something doesn't mean youre smart at everything. not that im saying that jobs was smart, but its not a given. e.g how there are scientists who are anti-vax

[-] selokichtli@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago

Thought Apples would save him back.

[-] Tehdastehdas@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago
load more comments (4 replies)
load more comments
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 09 Mar 2025
1449 points (100.0% liked)

Greentext

6203 readers
1120 users here now

This is a place to share greentexts and witness the confounding life of Anon. If you're new to the Greentext community, think of it as a sort of zoo with Anon as the main attraction.

Be warned:

If you find yourself getting angry (or god forbid, agreeing) with something Anon has said, you might be doing it wrong.

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS