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Summary

Secretary of State Marco Rubio grew visibly frustrated during an ABC News interview when questioned about the Trump administration’s approach to Russia.

Defending Trump’s push for peace talks with Putin, Rubio insisted negotiations were necessary but admitted the administration didn’t know Russia’s demands.

He clashed with host George Stephanopoulos over Trump’s refusal to call Putin a dictator and the U.S. siding with Russia in a recent UN vote.

Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.

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[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 38 points 1 day ago

Biden’s approach to Israel

seems absolutely sane by comparison to your boss, there, buddy.

and if you were going to 'biden' your support for ukraine, there'd be a non-stop airlift going on with equipment and armaments.

[-] Ledericas@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago

Oh Mr Rubio, only difference is Israel aipac is funding all of you congreswith bribes do their bidding

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

seems absolutely sane by comparison to your boss, there, buddy.

Coming at the Israeli genocide in Gaza and calling it "sane" is one hell of a take.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago

He called it "sane by comparison". He didn't say it was sane. Words mean things.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

He called it “sane by comparison”.

It's genocide. There's no comparison.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Oh, you're one of those who can't distinguish between genocide and super-genocide with golf resorts. I wish the world were as simple as people like you seem to believe.

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[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 day ago

Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.

Distracting from Trump's servile position towards the fascists in control of present day Russia by using the favorite logical fallacy of the USSR, whataboutism, is either highly ironic or very on the nose depending on which axis of the political compass you choose to focus on..

[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The problem is that most people handling this current situation through the lens of classic geopolitics

This is not classic geopolitics. This is the ultra wealthy enacting their plan to create a global plutocracy. A ruling class of only the most wealthy in the world.

They believe that their plans are more easily achieved with a Russian empire than with a free Ukraine.

Ask people like Rubio questions using that as the basis, not classic geopolitics.

[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago

Yes, yes, a billion times yes.

To me, the fundamental problem - the primary reason that it seems so difficult to deal with Trump - is that so many politicians and analysts and commentators are still spproaching issues as if the old rules are still in place, and they quite simply aren't.

Every time that another analysis or editorial appears that discusses the "failures" of the Trump administration, since their policies will undermine the original goals of the agency/programs in question, it's ultimately just meaningless noise, since it starts with the patently false presumption that the original goals still count. They don't.

The Trump administration isn't failing to achieve traditional goals - it's succeeding in achieving an entirely new and different set of goals. And there isn't going to be any meaningful commentary until it focuses on those new goals.

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Agree, the paradigm has changed and needs fresh eyes.

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[-] notsoshaihulud@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Listening to this guy reminded me of Thank You for Smoking, which is a dark comedy of a tobacco industry spokes person trying to make smoking cool and acceptable again. So much bullshit, so little substance. Marco, we've all seen your face during the meeting, bullshitting like this won't save it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3eeTjK0qZY

[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The Republicans are making a real effort to convince themselves that we're now at war with Eastasia. But it doesn't seem to work too good: however much they're trying to integrate the newthink, their brains are working against decades of anti-Soviet and anti-Russian indoctrination.

It's really painful and embarassing to watch them try to reprogram their own brains to please their cult leader...

[-] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Compare the way he talks about Putin with the way he talks about Zelenskyy.

With Putin, we have to see what he wants, we have to try to work with him and understand his position, we can't do anything that might make him uncomfortable so he doesn't decide he doesn't want to talk to us, and his broken agreements are in the past while we need to be moving forward.

On the other hand, he repeatedly states that they've "explained this" to Ukraine, that we can't discuss what they want or what their concerns are, we need to focus on getting peace first, and Zelenskyy is at fault because was disrespectful which apparently we can't ignore for the sake of peace the way we can ignore a history of Putin violating peace deals.

If they actually meant what they are saying and this was all about diplomacy and achieving peace, they wouldn't be picking a fight with Ukraine, they wouldn't be publicly undermining them and trying to coerce them, and they wouldn't be refusing to acknowledge any of their concerns. These motherfuckers think that it's a good look for them to be throwing a tantrum about the way Zelenskyy dresses and getting pissy about him not being thankful enough for the way they are so generously pursuing a peace that carves up Ukraine and comes without security of any kind. That's the way they want to spin this. Because apparently they think acting like thrid grade bullies who try to pick on the smaller kids is admirable, that people will see it and think they look smart and tough.

The only thing I even find remotely believable in this interview is Rubio's mantra of "I don't understand." Just in general I think it's pretty clear that there's a hell of a lot he doesn't understand. Things like human decency, geopolitics, basic negotiation tactics, and parables about riding tigers and giving rides to scorpions. But I think he probably does understand that his position is pure bullshit and that his only job here is to try and tow the line while defending the indefensible. That's why he got so panicked when a tweet from a fellow republican came up, because his strategy was to avoid details and try to frame the backlash as partisan politics, so he can't really respond to Republican criticism.

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[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 13 points 1 day ago

Rubio also compared Trump’s handling of Ukraine to Biden’s approach to Israel, further escalating tensions.

Well good thing he got that far. Now we just need to teach him that Apartheid is ba—

I think I see the problem now.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I don't think Rubio's analogy is in any way adopting the idea that Biden's extremely limited pushback on Netanyahu was because Israel did anything wrong, but instead just trying to legitimize Trump's attempts at coercion as normal. Somehow that's the thing he thinks people have a problem with, not the target.

[-] iN8sWoRLd@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

"What is wrong with being a peacemaker?" When the bully punches you dont ask him what he wants just punch him back you pussy.

[-] meowmeowbeanz@sopuli.xyz 6 points 1 day ago

Screaming on air won’t hide the fact that appeasement never stops aggressors.

🐱🐱

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 day ago

Trump is being blackmailed

[-] WatDabney@fedia.io 12 points 1 day ago

That's certainly possible, but it's by no means necessary, and not even particularly likely.

Trump is a spoiled, petulant, childish narcissist. He wouldn't react well to blackmail – his ego would lead him to be at least situationally passive/aggressive about it.

And in fact, that's why I do think he's being blackmailed by Israel (and specifically via information, evidence, video clips and so on that they got from Epstein). His sort of lukewarm, on-again/off-again support for them is just what I'd expect in that situation - he'll go along, but he's at least going to drag his feet.

With Russia though, I really think the primary motivator is that he idolizes Putin. You can see it in his face in any images from any of their meetings - he lights up like a schoolgirl with a crush. And that would explain why he's so enthusiastic and even reckless about allying with Russia - because he thinks he can only gain from it, since he'll get to be a trusted ally to his idol.

Which also illustrates the fact that he's sort of stupid and short-sighted, because if he was smarter and more circumspect, he'd know that, given the chance, Putin is going to play him like a fiddle.

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

Putin is going to play him like a fiddle

already is, and has been for quite some time.

and the reason lord diaper is so fucking easy to control is because the fucktard thinks he is the one in charge.

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