It’s interesting that this is a style that’s relatively easy to get AI to output, yet AI slop is instantly recognizable while this actually looks like good art.
I had some fun with Bing AI..
Draw me an illustration of the following. A lady with pink, long flowy hair holding up a blank sign. She is wearing an off-white silky gown. The background are some pastel coloured pink lilies, and sky in the colour of pastel blue, yellow, and green.
Sign should be above her head. The lady has Caucasian features.
She should have a face that looks angry and determined to right a wrong. Also, use some bold outlines.
Sure, it doesn't exactly have character like the one in the OP.
But I also put almost no effort in prompting (less than a minute). And Bing (Dall-E) isn't exactly the pinnacle of image generation AI. And the whole tech will only get better by time.
The problem is that it doesn't even have to be "very good"; the majority of people are entirely happy with "good enough". It's not hard to imagine how the whole thing will threaten and disrupt so many industries.
Compounding on the "good enough," i feel like when someone reaches out for a commissioned piece, they have an idea in their mind what they want, but are terrible at explaining it. So what the artist creates might not be what they wanted, with AI, they can make a prompt, see that their explanation sucked, and change their explanation in faster cycle time
the majority of people are entirely happy with “good enough”.
Are they really? I'm constantly disappointed by how my fellow humans vote in democracies, so maybe I'm just that out of touch. I thought most people would want to know what they were looking at was the product of human will and effort. Is that not your impression?
My impression from looking at how the likes of Temu and Shein are raking in billions is that, people are perfectly happy with cheap leas-than-mediocre slop.
I think the difference is software. When something has zero marginal cost to duplicate, you can afford to make it perfect.
A physical object has overhead to produce so there’s more room for compromises while staying competitive.
I'm from an entire instance that's friendly to generative AI. I'm going to explain it like I always do; I used to sell my art for a living. I'm fair at it. But anyone with any computer knowledge can find and use an AI, now, this very minute, for free, and get results that are better than what I've ever been capable of producing. And why on Earth should I fight that? Why wouldn't I embrace it?
There are millions of people in this world and each and every one of them deserves to have a visual representation of whatever they want. There's some kid on in the internet right now with their weird Sonic OC who deserves to be able to use art of that character as their avatar on Discord, and they shouldn't have to get a job or try their hand at drawing if they don't want to, in order to share that image.
Ultimately, this is what made me leave the field entirely. The kind of people I wanted to help with my art were almost universally people with very limited income, who had a weird little song in their heart and no way of sharing it with the world. And that was my passion, as someone who grew up poor- being able to help someone who had no way of coughing up the money required to keep an artist from starving, to be able to see what they were dreaming in their head. Balancing giving art gifts to people with no means, and taking commissions from entitled assholes who were going to send me 8 revisions because they didn't understand basic color theory no matter how fucking hard I tried to explain it to them, just so I could survive, was a nightmare!
So yes! I support AI art! I will support it til I die! The starvation of artists is a disgusting symptom of the system as a whole, but pretending that the solution is to turn our back on a useful bit of technology is treating the symptom, not the disease. Let SonicFan_2016 or xXxScEnEgUrLxXx or whoever have anything they need to express themselves. Maybe what we should be doing instead of posting pictures or words bitching about how the computers are stealing jobs, is find a way to fund the arts, and those who want to make them, so people like me can go back to making art without having to sell our souls every fifth image to some prick with a fistful of dollars!
get a load of this slop shill. This has got to be the worst take I've seen on Lemmy. Reddit tier even.
Weird. I thought replying to a comment to mug to the audience for their agreement with your assessment was reddit's bread and butter.
Instead of contributing anything of value to a conversation, I mean.
just look for "Alphonse MUCHA" online, you'll get all the answers you're looking for
Tell it to make her in the style of Mucha and/or art nouveau.
Made in chatgpt
Close, but immediately noticeably worse.
I feel like you didn't understand the assignment...
Surprised it got the spelling right.
Yup, I believe it.
Living in Prague, at this point I see all Mucha-style art as slop, AI or not. It's plastered all over the place because tourists like it and it's all the same. Sure, it looks nice when you first see it, but man does it get old fast.
For now. I worry it will get to a point where we won't be able to tell.
If people want to generate art for their own purposes, it's whatever; but yeah, I do worry about gen content muscling in on spaces that are meant for artists to share and appreciate each others' work.
Like when I'm reviewing sketches on Drawabox, it's not just about the image, it's about an aspiring artist trying to get good at making marks so they can express themselves.
You can poison the well:
Not sure if it's just me, but both of your links seem to go to the same place. (Nightshade)
You're right, I must've copied the links incorrectly, I just fixed them.
Technology has always been pushing people of average skill to move forward and find new things. The effort to stop AI from coming after this medium are already lost. Now would not be a great time to bank on an entire career based of drawing art in a style that AI can do. But perhaps there is a form of art that AI can not soon replicate.
There will always be a market for truly expert craftspeople and artists, however, and art as a hobby or personal interest will never cease.
Edit: the reaction is a bit fascinating to me and I'm trying to understand. The ATM machine reduced our need for bank tellers. The automatic phone switching network reduced our need for phone operators. E-commerce reduced the need for cashiers. The advent of computers reduced the need for slide rule operators. You can view this as all bad but by being on an internet forum you're benefitting directly from people having been freed from these jobs and able to pursue other less replaceable jobs.
I still find it sad how such naturally human things like singing or doodling are being automated tho :'-(
I find it amazing and surprising
"I want computers to do my laundry so I can do art. Instead computers are doing the art."
All of this AI stuff would be fine (or at least less bad) if we didn't live in a capitalist dystopia where people might have their basic needs (food, shelter, etc) threatened so some rich turd can become a little richer.
Art is more than a job, it's one of those fundamentally human things that we all do. Half the value of any form of art is the fact that a person made it and put their thoughts and feelings into it. I can make some guesses about the person who made this by their artistic choices. I'm a musician and when I listen to a song, I like to listen for the artist's influences, how the guitarist plays a certain note or phrase, etc.
Probably no one is a bank teller for fun. A lot of the hate for generative AI comes from the broader circumstances around it too. The people making money off it haven't shown that they value anything besides money and power, it uses an insane amount of energy, etc.
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