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[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 120 points 1 year ago

Ok, real talk: is that actually legal? It's definitely fraud, but can you fraudulently sell illegal substances?

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 138 points 1 year ago

No, this is definitely illegal in the US. You will likely get multiple charges for fraud, intent to sell narcotics, and if anyone gets harmed attempted manslaughter (some people are allergic to oregano, a lot of stuff that looks like cocaine is deadlier than cocaine). If your customers aren’t dumb kids the retaliation could be worse than the cops too.

Fraud I get, but intent to sell narcotics is ridiculous. You never had the intent, that's why you're selling oregano. And manslaughter? WTF. Battery at best, manslaughter only if someone actually dies. The US legal system is so damn punitive.

[-] Sotuanduso@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

They can reasonably make a case to charge you. That doesn't mean the charges will stick or hold up in court.

[-] PseudoSpock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 1 year ago

Of more concern is the snitches in the school. This kid needs to clean house, teach them the find out phase.

[-] pc_admin@aussie.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Clickedy clack, brahp brahp!

[-] candyman337@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're also definitely not supposed to sell stuff out of your backpack at a school, like if a teacher catches you selling anything, that could get you in trouble in school at the least

[-] bug@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

attempted manslaughter

Given that manslaughter is accidental killing I don't believe you're really a lawyer

[-] Broken_Monitor@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

:::pushes glasses up::: well ackshually I never claimed I was but that technicality makes this whole thing legal. Go for it!

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 43 points 1 year ago
[-] FoundTheVegan@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

Thank you for linking this. I'll be honest, I read most of it pretty skeptically thinking it was a silly law, but as a harm reduction for people OD'ing on a substances they have been misled about and doctors being able to accurately treat patients, this actually makes a lot of sense. Ty for the context. ♥

[-] aggelalex@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago

I think it's probably illegal to sell anything, especially food, without being registered with the required services like the IRS or the FDA.

[-] agressivelyPassive@feddit.de 17 points 1 year ago

This could fall under the same regulation as a lemonade stand or fundraising cake sales.

[-] QuinceDaPence@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Definitely if you're selling [not-food] a and claiming it's [food]. But I don't necessarily think there's anything that prevents you from selling something that you say is not safe to eat, despite it actually being safe to eat. Companies do that all the time where they'll say their product is not safe for x even though it is, jsut to avoid liability.

[-] bstix@feddit.dk 8 points 1 year ago

I doubt that laws on false advertising have any exception for things that are already illegal, so yes it's likely illegal to advertise oregano as weed.

[-] AlwaysNowNeverNotMe@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

If you just used slang I doubt there would be any way to make a case, besides not like you give receipts.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Courts and police don’t have much tolerance for that.

[-] thrawn@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Maybe, but what prosecutor would pursue that? Hard to prove beyond reasonable doubt if all you have is a bag of oregano and the testimony of a few children that faked being high. Not a great use of time, and all for one 17 year old kid

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Are you familiar with the United States? It doesn’t sound like it. In many towns, whether small cities, affluent suburbs or large cities, police, DAs and courts seemingly have nothing better to do. In the high school I attended in suburban New England they absolutely would have prosecuted a teenager who tried selling imitation drugs. I knew people who were targeted by police for years and eventually went through all sorts of police and court processes for less than 2 grams of weed.

The only way they wouldn’t have is if the family had enough money to get great lawyers, or they were related to someone who worked for the local government or school.

[-] thrawn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Shrug I live in the Bay which I guess isn’t terribly representative of the rest of the US? I went to high school in Texas though and we only had one student arrested, and he was dealing.

Sorry for your experiences! Sounds awful

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Definitely varies by region or specific cities. And thanks! Yeah, the police and school administration where I lived were insanely punitive and pretty much out to get counter-culture type kids. I had a bunch of conflict with a middle school vice principal and a few years after I left he was fired for punching a student... so... they moved him to Principal of an elementary school. Our HS security guard was an ex DEA agent and he and the admin were obsessed with the idea of busting kids for smoking weed. Local cops were obsessed with the idea of pulling us over and searching us and the car, and we were 15-18. We didn't realize we could say no. One time we bought a bong at a local head shop and it turned out the cops were staking it out and followed us, then claimed the driver made a 'rolling stop' 100 feet before we got to the next city limits. We'd also get stopped just driving around not doing anything, if they saw 2-3 teenagers in a car. So, both the school and local police were pretty tough to deal with. In a midwestern town we moved to, my brother and a friend had this one cop who had it out for them who would walk up and just start jamming his hands in their pockets "am I going to find anything? am I going to stab myself on a needle?" (which makes no sense, they never did/got busted for IV drugs). I went into my 20s thinking I'd always have to be concerned about being pulled over and searched but when I moved to the SW it didn't happen again.

[-] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

I came up in a small town and they were thrilled at any opportunity to bust one of us with a little marijuana and they prosecuted as intensely as they could. My town was famous for sending kids to jail rather than diversionary programs.

[-] squiblet@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Yep! People think of it as an urban thing (i think?) but small city police use it as a way to abuse the fuck out of people.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 24 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Weird thing to lie about.

No one, including members of uncontacted tribes in the Amazon rainforest, would think that of oregano was weed.

Anon is an unconvincing lying liar.

[-] NoughtE@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

When I was 16 I was a little shit. Went to a school where there were loads of posh, upper-middle class kids who desperately wanted to try weed but had absolutely no way to get it. My friend and I sold them so much random shit that wasn't weed. Once we scraped this outer layer of soft, brown matter off a wooden park bench that had been in the rain, rolled it into a ball and said it was hash. We got expelled, but not because of that - just because we were idiots.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Ah shit - now you've got me wondering... What is that soft brown stuff? Decaying wood? Some type of mold/mildew?

I vividly remember that stuff from when I was younger, but haven't thought about it in forever.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 1 year ago

Sounds like Dog Slime Mould - Which is actually a bacterium rather than a mould despite its name.

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks! Not sure about OP, but that's not it for me - it's a fine layer that'd collect under your fingernails if you softly scraped them over it rather than big globs like that.

I appreciate you though!

[-] ICE_WALRUS@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah I had a kid do this growing up and no one bought it AND he got kicked out of the school for trying to deal drugs even though they were fake.

[-] Mr_Buscemi 4 points 1 year ago

Had a kid almost kicked out of my middle school for faking something similar.

During lunch one day, he crushed some sugar packets on an Oreo before giving it to another kid. Then jokingly told the kid he gave him a crushed up Ritalin covered Oreo. They all knew it was a joke since he crushed the sugar packet in front of him, but the kid hated the other guy so he told a teacher.

I think criminal charges were charged against him. The kid had to go get his stomach pumped in the chance it was actually Ritalin.

The other kid had gone to a disciplinary school for a full year before being allowed back for his 8th grade year.

[-] nefonous@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Mix it with tobacco and plenty of idiots will take it and smoke it

Source: seeing lots of dumb pranks in my teenager years

[-] xzinik@feddit.cl 4 points 1 year ago

one day when i was 15~16 I legit had a bit of oregano on my backpack cause with some friends we wre going to meet up to make pizza, and for some reason i started to grind chalk and put it in a tiny glass vial some time later classmate(one known for partying too hard) comes to ask something and sees the white powder and asks if it is coke, with a deadpan face I say yes, asks if I have anything else I say yes i have marijuana, offers me about 5 bucks, I accept

when clases are over i go to the super to buy even more oregano and a few drinks, we made our pizza

next day he comes and asks if I have more weed, his mom caught him, and also thought it was weed, and threw it down the toilet

no one suspected anything because i was part of the weird kids and also if they wanted pirated movies, anime, games, porn i was the one to ask, one time I sold a couple of bullet casings that were all beat up with trafic, I used to sell kites and sometimes abrasive string for kite fighting, that kind of string is illegal in my country because its too dangerous, so it to my classmates it wasn't that weird that I could have a bag of weed for some reason

[-] newIdentity@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's really not weird that a 15/16 year old has weed.

[-] reverendsteveii@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

You've clearly never been to junior high school

[-] KombatWombat@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

This is just an episode from the Office

[-] PixeIOrange@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

And orange is the new black.

[-] Sagethefolxhero 4 points 1 year ago
[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

Can we please stop posting these losers?

The entirety of 4chan?

[-] stebo02@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 year ago

you can always, like block this community you know

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 year ago

You're right. I never noticed these were a set community. I assumed they were random cause I hadn't looked closely. Blocked. Thanks.

[-] reverendsteveii@beehaw.org 0 points 1 year ago

anon lies because he thinks you're stupid

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