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In the 1970's and 1980's there were several books the either had characters that did it or promoted it.

Why is there no cooking tray in my new car's engine bay?

Is it dangerous? (It would be less physically dangerous if there was a specific spot for it.)

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[-] roofuskit@lemmy.world 49 points 2 months ago

Considering the amount of cancers related to exposures to petroleum products, is this a real question asking why we don't cook on something that runs on vaporized petroleum products and is lubricated with petroleum products?

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 16 points 2 months ago

We have natural gas cooking.
So, yes.

[-] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

And it too, can be quite harmful if not properly ventilated.

[-] lennybird@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

I don't think the vaporized petroleum is supposed to be on top of your engine block, but rather remain quite within it.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I don't know too many people that actually follow regular maintenance schedules.I wouldn't trust that just because it's supposed to be inside, it actually stays inside

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 29 points 2 months ago

Cause the oil to have near your food is NOT motor oil, cause the exhausts could kill the entire family reunion, cause it's incredibly wasteful.. and so on.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

Motor oil? What are you cooking on, an early 2000s Subaru?

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Not who you're replying to. But yeah, there's plenty of vehicles that old on the road. We're a couple, and we get by with just a single '06 Toyota Carola. So why not an old Subaru? Cars were better then! They have buttons!

Anyway, it definitely gets dirty enough in that engine bay that I wouldn't want food in there.

[-] hddsx@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 months ago

Cars are more complicated now, but generally safer and less prone to rust.

It was mainly a dig at Subarus because they are pretty widely known to have had head gasket issues.

Presumably you’d clean your engine bay first and make sure there are no fluid/exhaust leaks

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

I do not think we have the same idea of the process.

This is not running the car at the reunion to cook. This is cooking while driving to the reunion and using the waste heat. The process is similar to baking on a campfire.

[-] SharkAttak@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 2 months ago

Well your post mentions the engine bay.. Doesn't sound like a good idea anyway, imagine getting in the car and still having last week's food smell stuck to the interiors, or having some food or the entire pot fall on the floor..

[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Mythbusters has an episode (Food Fables) with Alton Brown where they cook a thanksgiving meal in the engine bay. It went surprisingly well, although figuring out where to put everything and the different cooking temps were tricky.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 6 points 2 months ago

Mythbusters has an episode (Food Fables) with Alton Brown

Thank you. Looks like Episode 196 from Season 13 Episode 7.

[-] remon@ani.social 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's very hard to get the car inside the kitchen.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

This is very true.

Much easier to plumb water to the garage.

[-] AstridWipenaugh@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Keep the garage door closed for free heating in the winter.

[-] kersploosh@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 months ago

My wife's family once baked potatoes in the engine compartment during a road trip, just to see if it would work. Enough fumes leaked out of the engine that everything tasted slightly of oil and exhaust. Car engines are much tighter now, but I'm sure you still get a similar effect.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

It does seem a better seal than "pinched aluminum foil" would be needed.

[-] Ziggurat@fedia.io 15 points 2 months ago

In the 70's fuel was cheap.

Nowadays, if I need to let the engine run for an hour, I can go to a michelin star restaurant for the same price. (OK it's an over statement, but there is definitely cheaper and more optimal way to cook a meal on the road)

[-] vrek@programming.dev 11 points 2 months ago

What you can do safely is get a pack of cookie dough, wait till it's summer time(hotter the better), be in Texas, Arizona or similar state, put cookie dough on pan and leave on your dash board, go to work.

When you get out of work you'll have fresh baked cookies and your car will smell amazing!

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 months ago

One of my co workers at Disney did this, I've never tried it but every time I walked past their car with the cookie pan in the windshield I thought it was brilliant.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

Love it! A nice treat after work.

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 9 points 2 months ago

Op, what's unsaid here is that there's planning and enough required knowledge that is a barrier to entry for most people.

Planning: the engine will only get hot enough to do this after a drive of 30-45+ minutes, plus cook time. So for each person, each trip, it means specific planning of what to make, and when you can make it.

Knowledge: engines vary in design, and people vary in their comfort in how much they trust themselves to do things in their engine bay without risking damage. Taking some wire, making a secure spot to hold something wrapped in foil, and it not being in the way of anything AND if it slips or comes lose won't get caught in a belt is something I feel fine doing, but I do a lot of janky redneck stuff all the time.

Most people barely know how to change their oil, and since the 90s, more and more cars are complex such that they seem designed to be repaired and maintained by someone else not the owner. This makes the simple act of opening the hood intimidating for most people. One survey I found online puts comfort in doing basic cat maintenance at 20% of people. Extrapolate from there an increasingly small group that is comfortable doing weird stuff, ok doing risky weird stuff to their car, and who don't want to stop at a real restaurant to eat on a road trip (where my spouse will prefer to pee, not the side of the road), and you get a small enough number of people that is not surprising this isn't common.

It’s too hard to get direct contact with the engine. And thanks to the invention of plastic engine covers all the heat is trapped largely under them. We heated some burritos once on a trim on my moms grand Cherokee.

Also I have a boxer engine so it’s kinda hard to get down to the engine itself, and the plastic air intake doesn’t get very hot.

[-] bluGill@fedia.io 8 points 2 months ago

It is very hard to time your trip so that you get there when everything is done. those who try it either have overcooked food or have to drive around for a while after they get there for the meal to finish.

in the end it works but not well enough to do it. Even truckers who eat on the road find separate appliances better.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

Those are good points.

I had been thinking of partly cooking on the engine, and finishing in the oven. (Use case is baking something that needs 90 minutes in the oven.) Actually moving hot food is an issue, though one we deal with normally when baking.

[-] mattlqx@lemmy.lqx.net 7 points 2 months ago

They did this on Top Gear (or Grand Tour maybe, can't remember). Personally, cooking doneness aside, I wouldn't want some exhaust leakage from the engine or burning oil that's seeping from a gasket to taint the flavor of the food even if there were a guarantee of no carcinogens from it.

[-] yessikg 7 points 2 months ago

If you have an EV, you can plug in an induction cooktop

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[-] ch00f@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago
[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

2008! I had no idea people still did this. Fantastic!

[-] HughJorgens@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

They have been doing this since at least the 70s, when I saw it. There is nothing preventing anybody from doing it, you just want to be sure the food is wrapped in tin foil or some other heat proof metal container that keeps the bad air out.

[-] zxqwas@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Most car trips don't warrant a stopping for food.

There is very little space in the engine compartment on modern cars.

The engine usually run around 90°C which is not enough to boil water. You could use the exhaust pipe but that is harder to reach.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 3 points 2 months ago

The 90°C is a big issue as I would need ~205°C (400 °F) for real baking.

Most car trips don’t warrant a stopping for food.

Yes. It would be helpful in areas where the grocery store (or Costco) is 15 to 30 minutes from the eating place (home).

[-] ikidd@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

I've used the combine engine to warm up meals during harvest. About 20 minutes on the turbocharger heats a foil pan of stroganoff quite nicely.

[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My dad used to do something similar. He used to pack leftovers in tin foil and keep it in the engine bay of the tractor so he could keep going and stay out in the field not have to halt everything to have dinner way back at the house.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

There's a diner in town that tastes like this is how they cook their sausage, except it's done on a 70s era F150.

[-] Qwazpoi@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

It's really inefficient. A stove has all of the heat being concentrated to one spot while a car has a whole cooling system spreading out and dissipating the heat, and cars are more efficient at that than in the 70s. Having enough heat to cook with is generally bad for an engine so by design you would want it to cool before it's that hot.

I have had a few coworkers who put their lunch containers in their engine bay so that it would heat up for lunch though, that was for a job that had us driving around to 3-7 jobs in a day.

[-] noxypaws@pawb.social 3 points 2 months ago

Too much stuff to remove to get to either of my car's electric motors. Also that might cause a legit warranty denial someday...

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 2 points 2 months ago

With an electric car one may be able to plug an actual oven in...

[-] dual_sport_dork@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I imagine the majority of the current crop of motor vehicle owners are not quite smart enough to realize that the hood even opens to allow access to the engine bay... Nor what parts of it get hot. Or too hot. Or are safe to access, etc. And in our modern litigious society there is simply far too much that can go wrong with this to make it worthwhile for any manufacturer to include as a deliberate feature. Like, rodent infestation in engine bays is already an issue. Imagine adding (potentially forgotten and abandoned!) food to the mix.

Edit: Another wrinkle I thought of is a lack of consistent temperature control. Your engine is designed to move your car, not remain at a consistent temperature.

The utility is also rather limited when you have access to a microwave or a convenience store. Or even a convenience store with a microwave in it, as many do.

So yeah, you can do it to be clever if you like but it's not cut out to be mainstream activity.

[-] MNByChoice@midwest.social 1 points 2 months ago

While I don't disagree, this is a line of thought that is used to talk people out of everything, including many things we do commonly.

Temperature control is less important for many baking items (potatoes, some casseroles) than modern recipes indicate. Modern temperature control is "easy", but not needed for many things. Temperature control is critical for a few things, and those would be a bad match.

[-] DudeDudenson@lemmings.world 2 points 2 months ago

Everyone's overlooking that op asked why cars weren't designed for cooking with the waste heat from the engine.

I think you could easily have a loop out of the radiator that was used as a heater for an enclosed air frier.

Totally a waste but it would be feasible

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

That's literally how your car's heater works. But it didn't get that hot because the radiator dissipates most of the heat.

What you really want is to replace the water in the radiator with fry oil, and have a little basket for deep frying things in there glove box.

[-] linchiao@lemm.ee 1 points 2 months ago

Because RRRRMMMHH RRMMMM noise

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