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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 2 points 20 minutes ago

why are we still discussing it then?

that was clearly meant just to provoke.

[-] NoxAstrum@lemmy.ca 30 points 7 hours ago

Why are we talking about how difficult it would be? It's not acceptable, we don't want it, and we make the decisions about our nation.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

we make the decisions about our nation.

of course you do

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 8 points 6 hours ago

i dunno about you but i'd love it if new england became a canadian province, can we just like literally do the exact opposite of what the mandarin chief wants and let canada absorb some of the US? please? Fucking PRETTY PLEASE????

[-] marathon@thelemmy.club 4 points 6 hours ago

😉 You folks have a funny accent, you should take New Scotland, New Brunswick, NFLD and Labrador because they talk funny too. (jkg of course)

[-] Draegur@lemm.ee 3 points 6 hours ago

i'm from western MA so they don't have to worry about me talking about Pahkin da Cah at Hahvahd Yahd :p

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

would joining the two countries be better for everyone? in some ways, yes . in a lot of ways, no

but no matter what way you spin it. it falls flat on its face after a bucket of cold realism is thrown over you.
The reality is Canadians would lose their rights as citizens and would be at best, passengers living in poverty. and at worst, would be slaves

hundreds of thousands would go into poverty, be imprisoned by the occupants for not following their rules, or just straight up be deported or murdered. and yes I said occupants, it would be a military occupation for generations before the occupants even thought the new territory was ready to have some new states carved out. Until then look no further than Donetsk and Luhansk in Ukraine, what goes on there? Natives are evicted and killed, Immigrants from the "core" are shipped in to take their homes, the news shows off some north korean style tranquil scenes of everything working out fine, and there's small fake ballot stuffed elections to pretend all is well since the takeover.

there are a select few things I'd be envious of being part of the US over. but the fact remains that im not a fucking idiot, and It would be a net negative for every single person in my country. I'm not going to play devils advocate for people who would be trying to kill us

[-] slackassassin@sh.itjust.works 20 points 15 hours ago

So stop discussing it. Dumb mfers take the bait every time.

[-] cyberpunk007@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 hours ago

I'm so sick of this bullshit. No. Stop talking about it.

[-] MapleEngineer@lemmy.world 5 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

The ONLY way Canada would ever even entertain considering joining the US is if they give up their guns and implement a training and licensing regime based on gun ownership being a privilege, not a right. They would have to implement universal health care and get rid of the parasite class of unnecessary profit sucking health insurance companies. They would have to agree that every citizen has the absolute right to vote, electoral boundaries must be set by a non-partisan commission, that every citizen has free and equal access to the ballot box, and elections are carried out by marking an X on a piece of paper using a stubby pencil, putting that piece of paper in a cardboard box, opening that cardboard box at the end of the night, counting the ballots, calling in the count, and declaring a winner by midnight on election day. That religious freedom means that you can practice your religion however you want right up until it has any effect on anyone other than you and then it stops and that religious freedom is NOT the right to discriminate. That everyone is equal, has the right to love and marry whoever they want. That workers have rights, get vacation, sick leave, parental leave, bereavement leave, and that those things are entitlements. That free speech doesn't include hate speech, racism, discrimination, harassment, or doxing. It's none of anyone's fucking business what anyone does with their body and women have the absolute and exclusive right to make decisions about their healthcare with their healthcare provider.

That's just a start. If you can't agree to those conditions then it's a non-starter.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 76 points 1 day ago

A lot of these hypotheticals can be answered by "we'll just slaughter anyone who makes a fuss" because that's where our country's moral framework will be if we ever march troops across the border. Like an ultra nationalist fascist state is going to concern itself with old treaties and popular sentiments.

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

From a Canadian prespective, we would commit all the war crimes we could against an invading force, especially one we could not fight a conventional war against and win.

Im talking sending American GIs home in unrecognizable condition.

I dont care what government is in power by then. Invade Canada and be prepared to die in horrible ways, mutilated, and sent back to your loved ones in chunks.

This is the only way we could win a war against the US and we would not hesitate to do it.

[-] towelie@lemm.ee 14 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Realistically, we are so fucked. One single bomb on a highway or railway can completely decimate any one of our province's ability to move people or goods and perform services. Our border is too long and wild to be defendable. And they could probably take out our entire military logistics in a single night of bombings. All of this isn't even to mention that if they wanted to go all out insane they could make nuclear threats if the Canadian government doesn’t capitulate. I'm not saying we couldn't resist once occupied, it's just fucking hideous to think about.

[-] PlaidBaron@lemmy.world 16 points 18 hours ago

Im referring to resistance. We dont stand a chance in a regular engagement.

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 17 points 21 hours ago

You shouldn't hesitate. And some USians would like to join you in eradicating the fascists.

[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 24 points 1 day ago

The Geneva checklist

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 39 points 1 day ago

Why would anyone think twice about this ridiculous word fart from a demented rapist?

Move on, nothing to see here.

[-] fiendishplan@lemmy.world 33 points 1 day ago

What about going the other way, we take up the metric system and coins for our 1 and 2 dollars instead of paper bills?

[-] andros_rex@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

Aviation has just got its dick stuck too hard in the imperial can. Having to teach material where g=32 makes me want to eat glass.

[-] alkbch@lemmy.ml 2 points 18 hours ago

The U.S. already uses the metric system in strategic areas like the military, space exploration and scientific research.

It would be quite cost prohibitive to replace all the road signs so we’re keeping the imperial system for day to day stuff.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

We've tried dollar coins a couple times.

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 4 points 21 hours ago

But never with taking away the bills. Get rid if the bills and force the coins and voilà.

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

too many stripper injuries

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 17 hours ago

That seems like a losing move for not a lot of benefit.

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 1 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, no idea on the pros and cons of dollar coins, just that they'll never take off while there are still bills circulating.

[-] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago

My guess would be a knee jerk response like the move away from incandescent bulbs.

I barely even use cash at this point so I'm not sure what the actual implications would be.

[-] gheesh@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Aren't dollar coins used in the US? Because I've used them in dollarized economies (e.g. Ecuador) and I assumed they were fairly standard everywhere.

[-] CMonster@discuss.online 1 points 3 hours ago

They exist but are not circulated in nearly enough quantity so we basically collect them as oddities.

[-] tiefling 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

We have them but they're somewhat uncommon. I needed three for a project recently and had to go well out of my way to find them

[-] Num10ck@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

i only see them in Las Vegas, where theres millions of them.

[-] marathon@thelemmy.club 12 points 1 day ago

In terms of the metric system, just tell Americans that they're still using the occupier's system (British redcoats). 😉

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 4 points 21 hours ago

Ugh, we're not even. We're using the US customary system, which uses the British words but aren't the same values as British Imperial values. They're actually pegged to the metric system, so if the definition of a kilometer changed, so would the definition of a mile.

We're using metric with extra steps. Not to mention certain products are already in metric, and everything else has the metric on it already.

[-] marathon@thelemmy.club 2 points 20 hours ago

Oh, that's interesting.

[-] Shortstack@reddthat.com 32 points 1 day ago

The most disturbing part is that everyone is still discussing it.

You give him power by taking his mouth diarrhea as something more than just that.

[-] Carmakazi@lemmy.world 52 points 1 day ago

Enough of this. Nobody took him seriously in 2015 and we got what we got. You're not going to head him off by talking or not talking about him.

Trump does not have a sense of humor or a long-term tactical mindset. He speaks whatever is on his incomprehensibly selfish mind. When he says over and over and over again that he could run for a 3rd term, he means it. When he says over and over and over again that he thinks Canada should be annexed, he means it.

[-] robbinhood@lemmy.world 20 points 23 hours ago

Thank you. It's just so f'ing baffling how many people still think the right approach to Trump is to underestimate, ignore, or otherwise write him off. We know what happens when we do that. This lesson has been taught to us time and time again and it's carried Trump to the White House twice.

[-] Albbi@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 day ago

This whole thing came out of accidentally calling Trudeau 'govenor'. Trump made a simple mistake, but it's the reaction he got that caused this to keep going. Trump is a bully and bullies thrive on getting reactions. It could have been stopped early if we ignored his dumb ass then, but now it is too late and we need to show strength to get him to back down.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago)

No, it didn't. This whole thing came out of Trump randomly deciding to punish Canada with huge tariffs for no apparent reason* and he made the insinuations against Canada's sovereignty in furtherance of that.

(* actually, to manufacture casus belli)

[-] marathon@thelemmy.club 9 points 1 day ago

My opinion is that Trump negotiates this way - Ask for something outlandish and breathe a sigh of relief when he settles for something less. Gets press — but you're right about power. However the news being the way it is on a continuous cycle, content is needed. He understands that.

[-] Captainautism@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

You feed his mouth diarrhea back to him. Waterboard his face with it.

[-] peregrin5@lemm.ee 25 points 1 day ago

I vote for a trial where we test Canada taking the Western states.

[-] dick_fineman@discuss.online 16 points 1 day ago

...and the Northeast too, please.

[-] marathon@thelemmy.club 15 points 1 day ago

That would be cool, especially California, then we'd have somewhere warm to visit. LOL

[-] themadcodger@kbin.earth 12 points 21 hours ago

Um… you can't take California without also taking us in Oregon and Washington with you!

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 9 points 23 hours ago

It's all about perspective...Live in Manitoba or Saskatchewan for awhile and virtually everywhere is warm to visit.

(Ok maybe I'm still a little salty about the -40 temps and my pipes freezing three times this winter.)

[-] marathon@thelemmy.club 6 points 22 hours ago

Hey even us 'soft' Torontonians had windchill at that temp several times this season. And snow, helluva lot this year too, almost like Buffalo. 😂

[-] Rocketpoweredgorilla@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago

The bonus is that kind of weather makes us appreciate the warmers days that much more.

[-] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 21 hours ago

It's why we can walk around in shorts when it's 8C (46F) outside.

[-] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 2 points 16 hours ago

Yet here you are discussing it.

[-] tyler@programming.dev 7 points 1 day ago

Don’t give a reason, they’ll just say it’s not a problem. Just say no

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