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[-] siggsy@lemmy.world 9 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I was using Obsidian for a while, but actually switched when I found an awesome open source alternative, SilverBullet. The best comparison would be "Obsidian but for tinkerers/hackers".

Data is stored plaintext the same as obsidian - I actually just copy pasted my vault and it worked with exception of wikilinks being absolute paths only - and haven't looked back

The only downside is that its in early stages of development, but definitely usable

[-] JayDee@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 minute ago

I jumped over to logseq. It takes some getting used to, but overall logseq is working fine overall.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

I like Silverbullet, but I could never get the file tree to work well. Any tips? Or is that not a feature you use?

[-] nikorosso@lemm.ee 4 points 8 hours ago

Excellent news for myself. I've wanted to use this at work but it's hard enough to convince people to use it without asking for money.

[-] Brumefey@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago

Excellent news ! Excellent note taking applications with its ecosystem of extensions.

[-] Stylus2650@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

I wanted to go all in on Obsidian, but in the end I went with "Upnote" which has an easy UI and a lifetime price. (No monthly fees). It's like a mix of Evernote and OneNote. The Slash commands are so cool too.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

It's a different thing. What Obsidian and Logseq offer is plain-text markdown files in folders on your disk. Upnote and most of the other alternatives mentioned in this post store their data in a database.

Different thing altogether. Just depends what you're looking for.

[-] Peacecraft@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago

Dynalist is where it's at.

[-] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago

I just don't see the point of obsidian et al.

Just use a directory structure and save markdown files in it.

There are many apps that are great editors for this structure on every platform. IDK exactly what obsidian does but many editors have zettelkasten (fancy cross links) functionality, just no fancy graph.

Ghostty + helix is the sexxy RN.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

There are many apps that are great editors for this structure on every platform

And Obsidian is one of those apps 🤦 It's has equal amount of "point" to all the other editors you think are somehow more valid - it's just another editor.

[-] desmosthenes@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago
[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Good point, the thing is... if you do have MarkDown in a directory, as suggested here, then your CLI tools become your extensions. One can start with git and voila, version tracked. One can used a Web server e.g. Apache or nginx, and voila, accessible anywhere on the network, possibly on the Internet (via e.g. Grok or TailScale). That also includes any programming language, e.g. invoking a Python script on said files. Might not sound like much but it's a LOT.

So... I'd argue maybe not necessarily extensions themselves but the curation of extensions, namely their discoverability because they are all in one neat spot, with comments from users, etc whereas CLI commands are... all over.

Edit: I'd be curious about how many downvoters in this case have been using such solutions and for how long. FWIW I've been actively using and maintaining my PIM since 2008.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

To answer your other question, actively using and maintaining my PIM since 2009.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

You only have to consider the plugin developers. Most of them would have the technical ability to do what you mention, but they prefer to use Obsidian instead. Clearly there's a reason for that.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

How can you tell? I imagine you have stats on how many plugin developers exist and are active but I don't know how you can know how many people rely on a file system with CLI tools approach.

[-] asap@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

One of the benefits of Obsidian is that it stores its data in a format where you CAN use cli tools and python etc. That's one of the reasons I'm using it myself.

[-] thequickben@lemm.ee 4 points 9 hours ago

That assumes the person using obsidian is a software dev or a sysadmin. Most users aren’t going to want the extra hassle, or they might be unable to do these things.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

IMHO note taking systems are precisely about empowerment. The whole point is to learn... so even if they are not a dev or sysadmin, they can try and scaffold their knowledge, initially typing commands they don't understand, copy/pasting from the Web, then discover they can write their own, add that knowledge to their system, etc. I'd argue for most people that might be at least as valuable as their own content.

TL;DR: let's not infantilize fictional users. Having the option to do more, for those who do want to, is extremely valuable.

Source: I've seen nurses with no IT training installing drivers in the CLI for their WiFi card, no help from me. IT is cool but it's nothing magical either, people CAN learn if they want to.

[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago

It is a really good app. But was a pain in the ass to keep the archive in sync using multiple different platforms without paying for their sync addon in my experience. You can roll your own sync with stuff like Syncthing, cloud storage, etc. But the archive had a bad habit of seemingly finding ways to get out of sync.

[-] towelie@lemm.ee 2 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Take a look a SyncThing! It's a free FOSS app for syncing files and is available on all devices, and it's all self hosted. I initially used it for Obsidian syncing, but it's proved incredibly useful beyond that

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

They mentioned SyncThing. 👍

[-] MangoPenguin 2 points 11 hours ago

Did you try any of the sync extensions?

[-] wrekone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 13 hours ago

The biggest issue I had was with folder permissions on Android. I also ended up paying for the sync functionality and have zero regrets.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 13 points 21 hours ago

I just paid for the sync 🤷🏻‍♂️

It’s $4 a month, I drink one beer less a month and I actually save 3€ 😀

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