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President Donald Trump’s administration on Wednesday ordered a halt to New York City’s congestion pricing system, which thins traffic and funds mass transit by imposing high tolls on drivers entering some parts of Manhattan.

Launched on Jan. 5, the city’s system uses license plate readers to impose a $9 toll on most passenger cars entering Manhattan neighborhoods south of Central Park. In its early days, transit officials say the toll has brought modest but measurable traffic reductions.

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[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 22 points 1 day ago

States rights.

Sure man.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago

How can he legally interject into what is clearly a local government matter?

[-] singletona@lemmy.world 171 points 2 days ago

Funny how they run on this mythic yesteryear of the fifties... yet neglect the notion that the fifties were funded by the highest wealth taxes, street cars were everywhere, and there were MASSIVE public works projects EVERYWHERE.

[-] WolfmanEightySix@piefed.social 33 points 2 days ago

I don’t get it either, we do it in the UK too.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago

How is it that he has this power?

[-] DrunkEngineer@lemmy.world 27 points 1 day ago

MTA says he doesn't have that power, and the toll program will continue unless ordered to stop by a court.

https://static01.nyt.com/newsgraphics/documenttools/d0d7398bc4e60a2f/7ae68b5d-full.pdf

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

Because, so far, we are letting him.

[-] MyRobotShitsBolts@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

You haven't heard? He's the new king now, he can do whatever.

[-] jagged_circle@feddit.nl 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The mayor of NYC is facing corruption charges, and Trump has the power to pardon him. So Mayor Adams is a puppet of Trump.

[-] buzz86us@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

This is the dumbest thing.. Why should I have to walk past disgusting vehicles belching exhaust while going nowhere?

We should just ban personal vehicles in Manhattan it makes no sense when this city has the best public transit in the US.. ditch car infrastructure, and build cheap $900 a month apartments that people can sustainably live in.

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

It's a bummer that New York City has to fund welfare for states that hate them so much, like Kentucky, Mississippi, and Alabama. If that weren't the case it would be much easier to fund transit improvements.

[-] patacon_pisao@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago

Those states would be worse off if states like NY or CA decided to secede one day, though I’m aware that’s nearly impossible to do. What’s crazy to me is that the states that contribute most are the ones most shitted on for being “too liberal.”

If NY were run by MAGA, I bet the economy would tank and it wouldn’t be able to contribute anything to the states that are already poor.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Everyone says its nearly impossible to do but MAGA keeps doing the impossible. JUST FUCKING SECEDE.

[-] The_Caretaker@urbanists.social 5 points 1 day ago

@FreakinSteve @patacon_pisao
States that are done with President Musk can just stop paying federal taxes, stop accepting federal money, and stop federal taxes from being deducted from the wages of employees in the state. Fire their congressmen and senators. Let's do it.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

States don't pay federal taxes. Individuals pay federal taxes. No single individual wants to face prison for not paying their taxes so everyone pays them. NYC banks would have to refused federal court orders to withdraw taxes from individual accounts. State troops would need to defend individuals from federal arrest for non payment of taxes.

[-] doc@fedia.io 75 points 2 days ago

What authority do the feds have here? More nonsense to demoralize and distract.

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The interstate bridges and tunnels that go into New York City are owned and run by the Port Authority, which has federal oversight in addition to oversight from the states of New Jersey and New York.

[-] andyburke@fedia.io 31 points 2 days ago

What does this have to do with the downtown congestion pricing?

[-] otto@sh.itjust.works 29 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The bridges and tunnels are where they collect the tolls for people coming into Manhattan. Also, on the ferries, which are also run by the Port Authority

[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago

It sounds like they need to collect the toll right after the tunnel then.

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

Yeah, except the Mayor has committed a bunch of federal crimes and Trump is having them dismissed in exchange for his cooperation.

They're being dismissed without prejudice so they can be refiled at any time.

It's highly unlikely that the Mayor will do anything that's not in Trump's best interest for as long as he is in office.

[-] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago

The governor needs to dismiss the mayor. She has the power.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Are you sure you’re not talking about the wrong toll? I haven’t been to NYC recently enough so don’t know how they implemented congestion tolls, but that’s different from the tunnel and bridge tolls.

All I can find online is “MTA installed license plate readers around the city”

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago
[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 53 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

No matter how they spin it, main reason for doing congestion pricing was to fight how slow both emergency response and mass transit was getting.

Literally killing people, rich and poor alike.

[-] sping@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 2 days ago

Last time I was in Manhattan, walking to Penn station, I passed an ambulance with lights and sirens trying to get through. 6 blocks later I looked back and saw I was now 2 blocks ahead of it.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Is Move over law applied rigorosly? This question is not intended to discount overbuilt car infrastructure being overused.

[-] n2burns@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago

Where do you move over to when the whole road is full?

[-] merde@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago
[-] grue@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

The bus lane or the bike lane, of course.

...Oh wait, car-supremacist fuckwads have been ripping those out, too.

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)
[-] Donjuanme@lemmy.world 72 points 2 days ago

States rights

To bow to our Republican monarch

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 days ago

Hey NYC drivers, just purposely cause traffic. Sit in your car in the middle of the road - by the tens of thousands. You let him take one thing from you, and you're giving him permission to take everything from you.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I'm guessing the people dumb enough to drive in NYC are not displeased about what Trump did.

[-] kogasa@programming.dev 5 points 1 day ago

They're already doing this or may as well be

[-] PapaSkwat@lemy.lol 28 points 2 days ago

States rights, amirite?

[-] superkret@feddit.org 26 points 2 days ago

How the FUCK has he the authority to do that?

[-] LMurch@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 days ago

Isn't Mayor Adams now Trump's bitch because he ordered the corruption chargers dropped?

[-] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yes.

Not only that is that they were filed to be dismissed without prejudice so, if he doesn't cooperate, they can simply refile the charges and throw him in prison.

Totally normal and healthy open corruption

[-] Cort@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Federal government has to approve tolls on interstates and Trump revoked the approval given by the previous administration. Though the other poster isn't exactly wrong with the mayor Adams thing. That's probably how they'll ensure the toll booths don't just move 2 ft off the interstate onto city/state property

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago

Finding new lows, eh?

[-] dumples@midwest.social 13 points 2 days ago

In a statement, U.S. Transportation Secretary Sean P. Duffy announced the federal government has rescinded its approval of the program, calling it “slap in the face to working class Americans and small business owners.”

At first I was wondering when Sean P Diddy Combs was appointed Transportation Secretary. I get that he is accused of sexual assaults which is a great qualification but still......

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Yes! Trum..err Elon is coming for the DMV! Finally! Maybe it will be an app that sends pictures of me in the shower to the people who make our license plates in prison.

Will they be firing all cops, mailmen and firefighters?

[-] pivot_root@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Will they be firing all cops, mailmen and firefighters?

Just the mailmen and firefighters. Without police, who would be around to ~~beat up the minorities and protesters~~ enforce the law?

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