Been using Signal for years. Love it.
Makes sense than an anti-free speech dipshit like Elon Musk would oppose it.
same. No stupid gimmicks and whatever. Just secured messaging.
You know, for a free speech supporter, he sure seems to hate it when people speak freely.
He wants to speak freely, but he doesn't want to afford anyone else the same right.
It's not an uncommon stance, but it's a hypocritical one.
And when you say freely you mean hate.
In his case.
Not really true. His supporters are allowed to speak freely as well.
"Free speech absolutist"*
It's not easy to leave WhatsApp. I've transitioned to Signal a month ago and lost contact with a lot of people. My friends and family think I'm going crazy for attitudes like these. "You can't change the world on your own".. like that was the plan 😅
Thanks Musk, that was the motivation I needed to keep away from WhatsApp.
Obviously not a X/Twitter user, I'm not a fkin idiot.
I’ve never used whats app and I never plan to. Recently I’ve been trying Line for messaging my family abroad and I like how it’s a Japanese/ Korean app so I can get away from American corporations
You can't change the world if you don't try at all. What a braindead take..
And they wouldn't be alone if their family came with them
Literally this
"You can check out any time you like... But you can never leeeave."
It’s a slow and constant process of onboarding people to signal. I managed to onboard my local gaming group into using Signal after Trump got elected.
Leaving is never really an option. But running the two apps side by side still works.
It varies, I guess. Some people might not be able to leave due to their job for example.
I left, it's an option for me. And I'm not coming back, I don't want to admit defeat.
I'm in an island now, it's annoying how these companies penetrated our lives.
If someone is only willing to communicate with you through WhatsApp, they don't value your friendship.
I managed to get my parents and brother to switch to signal two years ago, never switched back and it's always working, very easy to use. I'm pretty sure whatsapp will enshitify at such a rate that signal will absorb the users.
Only the cool kids know where to get FOSS.
Is signal foss?
It's source-available
Supposedly they're unblocked again, but there's been no explanation from Xitter about the issue. Definitely seems suspicious that this happened while DOGE is having trouble with whistleblowers using Signal, though.
They have a pattern of trying something and seeing how far they can get. Then they'll say it was an oversight or a joke.
Someone recently called it similar to "reconnaissance in force" by the military -- you go out with an uncommitted force and learn from the kind of resistance you get so you can be more effective.
The point is "mistakes" like these are not benign, or at least should not be treated as benign, since we can't ever really know for sure.
New certified Signal classic
I was waiting for such endorsement, maybe my friends will switch now.
Agree this reinforce that signal is good for now.
The best endorsement you could get for moving to Signal.
It was never about free speech
Very free speech absolutist of him.
Didn't Signal get big after Musk endorsed it? What gives?
Yup. I started using it in part because of his tweet
I would really like to know who is using 'X' now ? I mean apart from Musk and his bot army
A lot of people unfortunately. Specially people outside the US, I think mastodon is ready for people to switch, but nobody does, the most they do is switch to bluesky
Unfortunately fedverse isn't really ready for the general population, it's why so many people flocked to bluesky over mastodon. I know I prefer blueskys UI and features over what Mastodon has to offer.
Though Tumblr is planning to enter the fedverse so maybe that'll help somehow.
Yeah idk, maybe I’m not that much of a micro blogger, i was never a twitter/tumblr user, so mastodon is kind of new to me, so I don’t miss any features. As far as UI, I believe most mastodon instances look pretty good, just not a twitter carbon copy like Bluesky, but that’s a matter of taste.
I believe the biggest problem is “clout” or following, with likes and boosts and stuff like that not being properly federated most of the time, people simply can not “grow”
One thing I did recently was search mastodon for some "normal" topics like fashion and yoga, but I didn't find much.
The nice thing about Mastodon and ActivityPub is that they're designed for the long run, and don't need profits to be successful. So they can have slow growth year over year and still survive and slowly build up a user base that gradually adds more and more topics to attract more people.
Yeh that’s a big problem too. People on Mastodon are mostly IT/Technical people and maybe musicians, some artists and a lot of activists.
I hope at some point people understand that Bluesky is basically the same as twitter, and at some point, the company can become evil.
But yea h, activitypub is pretty much immortal haha
Dude most European heads of state and institutions have Xitter accounts and just kept on using them.. It's a disgrace..
Here are some workarounds:
He's not doing anything except getting more bad press for himself.
Twitter should have been regulated as a common carrier and one rich asshole shouldn’t have been allowed to buy it, regardless of their politics
Most social media should be public domain or at least have standardised open APIs, it's the logical way to go for a free society with healthy governments and institutions. As it is right now it's like private companies owning the streets..
Honestly I feel all news and social messenging services would be better served if they were forced to be public owned.
Free speech but no Signal? Red flag.
@cyrano The "problem" (actually, the feature) with those censorship algorithms is that they rely a lot on the "exact contents" of the message ("Scunthorpe Problem"), so X is probably programmed to detect the Signal's domain and block due to the presence of such link (similar to how Facebook was/is blocking links to the largest PixelFed instances, and then they also decided to block links to DistroWatch and official websites from various Linux distros), so it's not programmed (yet) to censor just the "hexadecimal/base64/whatever" portion of the link alone. And there's where Tox could shine: a handle is literally a hexadecimal sequence, without Tox's domains, without URI Schemas, just a bunch of digits and letters from A to F.
I don't know why Tox isn't mentioned as a "instant messaging platform for whistleblowers": it got Onion (Tor) tunneling possibility (as well as tunneling it through I2P outproxies because it actually accepts any kind of SOCKS5 proxy), it's registration-less (even Matrix needs registration) so it's effectively anonymous IMO.
SimpleX seems to be that, too, although I didn't have the opportunity to use it more than I used Tox. But from the little I've used it, it's similar to Signal in the sense that it's a link (and a large link) and not simply a hash/hex sequence.
Tox is nice. My favourite flavour is qTox.
The typical pattern over here: if someone uses Signal, you guess they're some military type (wants things to be secure, doesn't care much about anonymity, wants things to work one way and simply).
If someone uses Tox, you guess they're some hacker / anarchist type (wants things to be secure, but also anonymizable, wants things to be flexible, even if it can backfire).
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