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[-] ZDL@ttrpg.network 143 points 6 days ago

These "one day no purchase" things don't work. It takes sustained effort to "vote with your wallet".

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 68 points 6 days ago
[-] ZDL@ttrpg.network 51 points 6 days ago

I'm specifically talking about the one day economic blackout.

These have been done dozens of times over dozens of issues and have had zero impact ever. A one-day blackout won't do shit except give the Ralph Wiggums of the world that "I'm helping!" feeling. If you want them to feel it it has to be longer-term. A week. A month. A year. And that's sadly, something that people in a consumerist culture lack the stamina to do.

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

Also if you just move your purchases to the day before or the day after all you're doing is very slightly messing up their forecasting. They're still getting your money, just earlier or later than that had expected.

[-] ZDL@ttrpg.network 4 points 5 days ago

This is the precise problem with these kinds of empty actions. Back in the '70s and early '80s, when this was still new, companies would panic over this kind of action. Then they noticed it didn't even register as a blip on the stats. A mild anomaly, maybe, if it was held on the last day of a month, but completely buried in annual statistics.

If you want them to actually take notice, you're going to need to have more than a day. And that means going without. Which most people are unwilling and/or unable to do.

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

A consumerist culture is unsustainable with extreme wealth inequality

[-] spacesatan@leminal.space 14 points 6 days ago

lol a general strike. pure fantasy. You're gonna need about 5000% more class consciousness in the US before you can even think about it.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 35 points 6 days ago

Yeah, why try doing anything, right? Action only counts when everybody does it! You, puny little human, are worthless. Your ideas not worth repeating. Don't ever try and organise anything. It's not worth it. \s

Stop being a pawn for the rich.

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[-] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 5 points 5 days ago

A general strike would be amazing, but it's not realistic. Even just having say 25% of workers out for a few days puts strain on the system. Same with limiting spending. If even 25% of the country spends only on essentials, then that'll translate to a couple percentage points of loss to major corporations (not all of course, but some major ones).

It's not about a silver bullet, it's about inflicting enough paper cuts that it starts to hurt. No one thing will be 100% effective.

[-] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

Do it anyway.

[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 102 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Luigi may have found something they understand a tad better than dollars.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 32 points 6 days ago

How are there so many people in the US with guns shooting at each other and poorer people, but not the rich? It's like they literally live in "Don't Look Up".

[-] Perhapsjustsniffit@lemmy.ca 17 points 5 days ago

I've said this before, as a Canadian I am dumbfounded that no one has picked up a gun or even just walked up and punched someone in the face. It actually makes me fear a lot less the looming trade and water wars with America. Y'all are fucking pussies and just lay down at the first sign of confrontation.

[-] aeternum 9 points 5 days ago

They say a good guy with a gun can defeat a bad guy with a gun, but there are mass shootings all the time, and the good guy. never seems to show up.

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[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 23 points 6 days ago

All hail hero Luigi!

[-] maccam912@programming.dev 45 points 5 days ago

Even here there are so many replies that are "it won't matter, it doesn't hurt them enough". Cmon y'all, nothing will take them down in a single day. But when something out of the ordinary happens, like even a few percent drop for no apparent reason on one day, it's a small shock that makes predicting the future a bit trickier. Its also a signal that, hey guess what, the crowd of regular people CAN be organized about something without a rich person telling them what to do. Maybe we just need a critical mass to send small shocks through things. Call it an organized piece of performance art. Or testing the resiliency of financial networks. Just one time deals of "on this day everyone who can afford an Amazon basics robe should wait for my signal to either buy or not buy". Then you will have Amazon either scrambling to fulfill a huge order of robes, way more than baseline, or perhaps preparing for it only for it to turn out I flipped a tails that day and nobody is buying one and now they have a big stock of robes they won't be able to offload. They'll hate it purely because they can't plan for it with much certainty.

[-] PieMePlenty@lemmy.world 64 points 6 days ago

Biggest retail month is December. You want to piss off the corporations? Cancel the presents part of Christmas. Tell your kids its because of Trump. You're gonna raise them right, you're gonna hurt the corporations, your pockets will be heavier, you will feel bliss because you've let go of the materialistic mindset. Not gonna happen but its sweet to dream.

Theres a saying that goes: the best time to do that thing is yesterday, the second best is now.

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[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 29 points 5 days ago

Honestly this is kind of a great plan. General strike is hard for people to swallow. But a general boycott??? Super easy. People can go to work, do whatever but buy 0 consumer goods. Extremely basic food, maybe even from local farmers. And completely ignore the mega corps. A motived effort could last for months and halt the economy

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

I buy my groceries every two weeks when I get paid. I don't get paid that week. I won't be buying anything anyways. And even if I did participate, I'd just buy stuff the next day and it would balance out. I'm not sure how this actually does anything. In the grand scheme of averages, this seems like barely a blip tbh.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 5 points 5 days ago

All efforts, great and small.

[-] fishos@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

My point is that I literally will be putting in zero effort and buying on my normal days because that's all I can afford to do. You're asking people to make a choice and for some of us there is no real choice. When I buy groceries is determined by my payday WAY THE HELL MORE than any ideology.

[-] Nougat@fedia.io 4 points 5 days ago

Not every action is appropriate for every person. This doesn't mean that actions that aren't appropriate for you shouldn't be taken by anyone.

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[-] Bob_Robertson_IX@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

You're exactly right. A one day boycott doesn't work. For it to work your need to have a day when you don't consume anything. But even then, that isn't feasible.

Cancel your subscriptions, and don't start them up again.

Divest your 401k from US money markets.

Get involved in your local government and start focusing on ways that your community can provide local services.

If you know where a morally corrupt CEO is going to be staying, let your local Luigi know.

These aren't easy things, but they can be effective.

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[-] AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

This is a lot more feasible. People can lose a lot striking from work but striking from consumption is much more manageable. Where the way to participate is NOT to do something, whole lot easier too.

[-] clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works 35 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

It ought to be stop buying things you don't absolutely need starting on the 28th.

[-] Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.world 28 points 6 days ago

Dude......I've been doing that since.......always. Hell, I don't even buy the things I DO need!!!

[-] LadyMeow 9 points 6 days ago

I’m already checking out of buying things. Yeah I get what I need but I’m cutting all bunch of non essentials

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[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 16 points 5 days ago

Jokes on them, I am so broke these days I am barely buying shit anyway.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 15 points 5 days ago

What's happening on FEbuary 28th? I'm sorry I'm out of the loop

[-] BipolarSilence@lemm.ee 12 points 5 days ago
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[-] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 6 days ago

Hmm the 28th isn't super convenient though. I think I'll do it on the 29th.

Saying it will work or not work are both equally stupid unless you provide some evidence for it.

Here's why it might work:

Modern economies are extremely fragile. The only reason amazon is able to provide same day delivery is because they can predict with reasonable certainty, what the demand will be.

Youtube or any big social media works by predicting what the usage will be.

We are just used to seeing how magically all the technologies work but at their roots, its all about predicting the future trends.

So if there is enough mass behind this movement to cause disruptions, it will hurt them. Even if it creates some noise, this will force them to increase fault tolerance.

So the real question everyone should be asking is this:

Will the inconvenience caused by not buying on 28th more than the potential for some damage?

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 6 points 5 days ago

Woudn't it be better to target more focused for a longer duration? Don't buy anything from Amazon for 3 months.

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[-] caboose2006@lemm.ee 6 points 5 days ago
[-] Commiunism@beehaw.org 12 points 6 days ago

But what's the objective here? Not buying stuff and boycotting for one day usually means you'll buy more in preparation before the boycott, or buy more after the boycott to make up for the deficit.

[-] Inucune@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

Do you one better: eating lunch at the restaurant run by immigrants.

I would like to see a cancel Amazon day too. We did it in November and have been saving one to two hundred dollars a month just spending a hour downtown buying our necessities. Plus we aren't indirectly financing Trump's election campaign anymore.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 8 points 6 days ago

Will this have a huge impact? Almost certainly not. But Stephen King is always on the people's side. This isn't the first political post he's ever made.

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 7 points 6 days ago

Yeah, I agree. The only thing that matters is when things have huge impact. Change happens immediately and never in small increments. It's worthless to make people aware of how they can be part of the solution. That's just messing with hope.

Edit: Really should've added the /s

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[-] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 days ago

might just be crazy enough to work, count me in

[-] cavemeat@beehaw.org 4 points 5 days ago

I've gotta spread the word, gotta hit em where it hurts.

[-] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Takes more than that; that's 1/365th of their value

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