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submitted 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) by ByteMe@lemmy.world to c/summit@lemmy.world

What do you think about this?

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/25639684

The tesseract Lemmy app, has a little overview from mediabiasfactcheck.com (MBFC). It seems like a clever way to foster a healthy community.

If you click on the ranking you get details.

ranking details for CNN

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[-] JASN_DE@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago

The idea isn't bad, but the data source is almost comically skewed, same as for the Lemmy bot.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 years ago

What is the baseline for this thing that it's labeling CNN "left"? It's practically the dictionary definition of centre-right.

[-] ByteMe@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago
[-] j4k3@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

It has no value to me. Deciding the line in the sand is just as much of a power play as the onerous establishment. Calling the US Democrats Left is disingenuous. They are on the right by a considerable margin. The USA has no Left. So this is only pressing the establishment and validating it.

[-] BradleyUffner@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I hate these bots and instantly block them whenever I see them.

[-] ByteMe@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

###Addition

Apparently the bot I showed isn't the best one. I was more talking about the idea behind it instead of using the same bot. We can find alternatives. Recommendations are welcome

[-] SubArcticTundra@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

I think a community notes feature would be better. Because community notes target specific statements in the article/comment, whereas this just provides a vague and hard-to-interpret score.

[-] shnizmuffin@lemmy.inbutts.lol 2 points 2 years ago

To answer your question in relation to Summit, or any Lemmy client in general:

Implementing a feature like this interferes with user agency. I dislike the idea that my device would be sending my reading habits to a fact checking site. Since the implementation would most likely be domain agnostic, that website wouldn't just know my political stance, it would also know my interests. I don't need any more targeted advertising for Legos, sports paraphernalia, or enterprise server equipment.

From a developer perspective, I bet that API costs money eventually. It's a trap.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

If you want to potentially sidestep some of people's frustrations you might consider just using the credibility rating and focusing on whether a group provides factual reporting, rather than left or right of center

You can also create a user experience that more carefully manages expectations of the feature by having it be opt in, but presenting the option to users when it becomes available. That gives you the opportunity to give a short blurb acknowledging its imperfections and also highlighting its potential value

As someone fairly to the left wing myself, the fact that lemmy is so left wing is both a blessing and a curse. I don't see Nazis around, but being in an echo chamber isn't great for your ability to engage with perspectives other than your own, and makes you succeptible to narratives that reinforce your existing views regardless of whether they're accurate

I'd love this feature, in spite of its flaws, but it does definitely have them. Its based on the US overton window, which will frustrate folks from other parts of the world who may already feel lemmy sometimes forgets the world beyond the US exists. And the US overton window is changing as a product of the trump administration which may warp mbfc results, which could honestly be really dangerous.

Focussing on the factuality and credibility might help you sidestep those problems and make a feature people would find less frustrating, potentially even to the point that you could make it opt out.

Generally I appreciate efforts to build healthier, less echo chambery discourse, thanks for the work you're doing ❤️

[-] JackbyDev@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

lemmy.world admins made a bot that used MBFC and many considered it a bad move. I'm sure there are others but here is a thread on the topic. https://lemmy.world/post/18073070

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