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[-] hulfpa@lemmy.ml 133 points 2 months ago

This move makes zero sense to me. Why, change it? It's not it's official name or international recognized name so wtf

[-] Darorad@lemmy.world 101 points 2 months ago

Curry favor with the trump admin

[-] davel@lemmy.ml 74 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

And it will undoubtedly pay off for them. This is the first brazenly tech oligarchy-driven administration.

Remember who was at Trump’s inauguration? Musk, obviously, but also:

  • Tim Cook, CEO of Apple
  • Jeff Bezos, CEO of Amazon
  • Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Meta
  • Sundar Pichai, CEO of Alphabet

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Trump, a populist president, is flanked by tech billionaires at his inauguration

Tim Apple isn’t your friend, either. No oligarch is.

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 27 points 2 months ago

To be clear, they've changed names in line with official government policy before, not just for Trump's admin.

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[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 63 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The USA is now part of a list of "sensitive countries" with authoritarian states with their own version of reality. When users in one of the countries on this list visit Google sites, they see that government's version of reality. This is nothing new. Google does it all the time with disputed territories. It's only news because it's the first time the US has an authoritarian government.

Here's how it looks when visiting from a Mexican device with the language set to Australian English while located in Hungary.

1000019054

Edit: undoxxed myself lol

[-] KSPAtlas@sopuli.xyz 16 points 2 months ago

In Google maps set to Polish while in the UK, it shows

Zatoka Meksykańska (Zatoka Amerykańska)

Which translates to

Gulf of Mexico (Gulf of America)

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[-] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Distraction from:

  • closing down the Consumer Protection Agency, USAID, and the Education Agency
  • cutting off funding to the universities
  • stealing our student, treasury and health records while taking over the purse
  • not following federal judge's orders
  • building an unregulated concentration camp in Cuba
  • etc.

Edit: That's why trump did it. All tech companies are in his hands now.

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[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I think I heard that Trump did it because he thinks it gets him around some Biden era rule that he can’t reverse that bans oil drilling in parts of the “Gulf of Mexico.” It’s really stupid. Exxon and Chevron have both “acknowledged” the name change.

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[-] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 88 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

It's even weirder because America doesn't mean just the United States

Geographically, America is too ambiguous of a name for the Gulf of Mexico

Wouldn't the Gulf of California also qualify as being the Gulf of America?

The Caribbean Sea?

Basically every river system from the Mississippi and and the Amazon are also "American" from northernmost point of North America to the southernmost point of South America, it's all "America"

Naming the Gulf of Mexico "America" is almost as bad as naming a country "earth"

[-] SendMePhotos@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago

Hey since America is the center of the earth, we should change it to the Gulf of Central America!

[-] pdxfed@lemmy.world 25 points 2 months ago

Mexico's full name is ”The United States of Mexico", I think they should rename their map's version to Gulf of The United States just to add to the confusion and make the point these things, like all facts, are useless when people suffer no consequences from making them up.

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[-] SeekPie@lemm.ee 68 points 2 months ago
[-] Aetherion@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Organic Maps is really cool :-)

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[-] Limonene@lemmy.world 59 points 2 months ago

Meanwhile on Openstreetmap:

name Golfo de México

name:en Gulf of Mexico

official_name:en_US Gulf of America

Showing just enough acknowledgement to confirm they've discussed the executive order, but they aren't going to follow it.

[-] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 56 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Even in the UK they have put Gulf of America.

The UK Government doesn't recognize that name and have officially stated they wont (at least in the short term)

[-] generic_computers@lemmy.zip 31 points 2 months ago

I live in the US and I won't recognize the name either.

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[-] helloyanis@jlai.lu 54 points 2 months ago

No better time than the present to switch to OpenStreetMap

For Android, I use OsmAnd~ which uses OpenStreetMap data and allows you to download maps to calculate routes offline, something Google Maps couldn't do for routes by foot and by bike last time I tried.

It also has better coverage for some small paths in natural areas like forests. Give it a try!

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[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 47 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I will continue deadnaming the gulf with the name assigned at birth. It's just going through a phase.

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[-] jokeyrhyme@lemmy.ml 45 points 2 months ago

Planet America, orbiting the American sun, in the galaxy called America

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[-] fmstrat@lemmy.nowsci.com 37 points 2 months ago

Time for a repeat comment: Organic Maps does everything Google Maps does (except traffic conditions), and is FOSS. Please encourage places to contribute business information to Open Street Maps.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

"Except traffic" is not a little thing. It's like putting up an ad for a house with all the features you'd expect, except a roof.

With my daily commute, there are a dozen routes I can take and traffic conditions make it so that from day to day, there can be an hour difference between different routes. It's literally the only reason I use navigation apps over a cheap GPS unit with no live online connection requirement to navigate.

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[-] digdilem@lemmy.ml 36 points 2 months ago

It's not google's fault. It was told to do so and has. Does anyone seriously expect them not to have done this?

Every American company, or company doing business in America, needs to toe the line of an unpredictable and vindictive president, especially one as fat and tempting as Google.

Now there'll be a disconnect in mapping between what some sources say and what others do, but anyone with a little history knowledge knows this isn't the first time.

[-] Xatolos@reddthat.com 34 points 2 months ago

I'm not in the USA, I am not a US citizen. No reason I should be seeing this while I'm in the EU.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

Submit a correction. Many people should.

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[-] Hux@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago

Using the website from outside of the US shows it with its proper name, but then the asshat version in parentheses.

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[-] baggachipz@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Yes, Tim Apple bent the knee, but the company seems to be holding steadfast.

Apple Maps

Edit God dammit, they changed it. Cowards.

[-] jaschen@lemm.ee 26 points 2 months ago

In Taiwan it says:

Gulf of Mexico(Gulf of America)

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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Degoogled since 2018

hardcore mode, google domains blocked by DNS

YouTube scrap data

GrapheneOS with used Pixel

[-] MolecularCactus1324@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

“degoogle” - uses Google phone

[-] hash@slrpnk.net 28 points 2 months ago

It's a funny irony but a Pixel with GrapheneOS is the gold standard for mobile device security. Buy it secondhand and cut out their profit.

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[-] eldesgraciado@lemm.ee 22 points 2 months ago

This is pathetic and reeks of insecurity big time. Hope that this debacle improves your QoL, Americans.

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[-] kamen@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago

The irony is that it doesn't specify which America.

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[-] Spoilt@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

Mexico should rename "America"

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[-] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 19 points 2 months ago

America is so fucking weird!

[-] jodanlime@midwest.social 16 points 2 months ago

Only most of us. Please send help.

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[-] stiephelando@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 months ago

IIRC Google shows different names and borders depending on the location you're accessing it from. They just follow whatever the local government thinks is right.

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[-] gunpachi@lemmings.world 16 points 2 months ago

“There's no saving America -- we need to pull it out by the roots. Wipe the slate clean. Burn it down! And from the ashes, a new America will be born. Evolved, but untamed!”

— Senator Armstrong.

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[-] SabinStargem@lemmings.world 14 points 2 months ago

Something adjacent to degoogling: I am concerned that Microsoft would collaborate with the Trump Regime. I never used Linux before, but I am now downloading Ubuntu. It feels like that I should do a dual-boot setup and get ready to abandon Windows if I hear about MS HQ in Washington having a DOGE presence.

Here's hoping that Europe and the Blue States are watching Microsoft for anything weird.

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[-] dessalines@lemmy.ml 14 points 2 months ago

Can someone explain the 4D chess going on here? AFAIK this was just tweet diplomacy, the US hasn't passed anything about this. So why would google want to handle all the complaints and backlash they'll take for this?

[-] DontRedditMyLemmy@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

I think something official was actually signed in the last few days. Dumbest timeline.

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