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Summary

Donald Trump stated that Palestinians displaced by Israel’s military actions would not have a right to return to Gaza under his plan.

Instead, he proposed resettling them in Egypt and Jordan, despite both nations rejecting the idea.

Trump suggested creating permanent refugee communities funded by the U.S., calling Gaza a "real estate development for the future."

His proposal has drawn condemnation from Arab nations and legal experts, with the UN warning it could constitute ethnic cleansing and violate international law.

Israel’s far-right settlers welcomed the plan.

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[-] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Wonder where all the people that fall for the Russian propaganda on Kamala are?

Probably found another single issue to base their entire political identity around. I know a lot switched over to the Gulf of America outrage.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

Of course he does not. Every American president has always voted against Palestinian self-determination at the UN.

[-] Teknikal@eviltoast.org 14 points 6 hours ago

It's ironic that China seems to be the country supporting the Palestinians, I kinda feel we might be the baddies.

[-] jj4211@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sadly every major power tends to be the baddies to some extent, it's how they get to be and stay major powers. We just get to grade on a curve. Nazi Germany really set the curve and the US got to be the pretty unambiguous good guys, at least up to the firebombing campaign in Japan, the nuclear bombs, and being complicit after the fact in Japanese atrocities by shielding them from consequences.

While we have an "ambient" level of baddie-ness most of the time, we at least have balanced it out by sometimes defending against unjust violence and providing humanitarian aid.

Now Trump seeks to turn that baddie scale up to the max while simultaneously cutting out all aid efforts.

[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago

Aaaaand, why is the president of the US making plans for the people in a county he has no authority over again?

[-] aesthelete@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago
[-] tym@lemmy.world 17 points 9 hours ago

The real lesson of trump: you can get away with anything after you've conditioned your victims enough.

I read recently that all conservatism is is "I'm a good person and anyone who says otherwise deserved whatever I did to them."

Pretty sure this is how it all started in the 1930s.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 1 points 7 hours ago

That is a hell of a sentence. Damn.

[-] castmounted@lemmy.world 6 points 8 hours ago

Cool plan dude except for the humanity and stuff

[-] tym@lemmy.world 29 points 12 hours ago

Friendly reminder: The crescendo of the first six months of project 2025 is using civil unrest to deploy the US Military as a domestic police force. The accompanying suspension of habeus corpus is absolutely needed for them to turn up the heat even more.

They're laying the groundwork for defanging the judicial branch as we speak - it's their last obstacle.

From https://constitutioncenter.org/the-constitution/articles/article-i/clauses/763 (emphasis mine):

"The Suspension Clause protects liberty by protecting the privilege of the writ of habeas corpus. It provides that the federal government may not suspend this privilege except in extraordinary circumstances: when a rebellion or invasion occurs and the public safety requires it. "

[-] Bronzebeard@lemm.ee 62 points 15 hours ago

Not even gonna try to pretend it isn't ethnic cleansing...

[-] aleq@lemmy.world 28 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

People can weasel themselves around terms like "fascist" quite easily, because there are multiple definitions, many are very diffuse and there's a lot of disagreement around it - but ethnic cleansing to my understanding is quite simple and this is it. Can any serious political commentator pretend it's not? For example the forced removal of Poles from west Poland (annexed by USSR) after WW2 for example was not a slaughter, but is considered an act of ethnic cleansing.

[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 6 points 10 hours ago

I called it. Powers that be want that beachfront property.

[-] Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 hours ago

Did they ever really had rights? USA have been arming Israel for the past 50+ years.

[-] meowmeowbeanz@sh.itjust.works 39 points 16 hours ago

The sheer audacity of treating sovereign territories like Monopoly properties reveals the bankruptcy of modern geopolitics. Trump's alleged "Gaza swap" proposal – offering Egypt debt relief for absorbing a war-torn enclave – reeks of casino diplomacy where human lives become bargaining chips. This isn't statecraft, it's a foreclosure auction on human dignity.

Egypt's immediate rejection proves even authoritarian regimes recognize some lines shouldn't be crossed. But the real tragedy lies in normalizing this billionaire's mentality that every crisis is a leveraged buyout opportunity. From the Abraham Accords to this Gaza garage sale, it's all about transactional trophy deals while ignoring root causes.

The Mediterranean doesn't need another real estate mogul playing Risk with refugee camps. This isn't solving conflict – it's outsourcing oppression through financial blackmail. The message is clear: human rights have become adjustable-rate mortgages in the hands of dealmakers.

[-] simplejack@lemmy.world 117 points 18 hours ago

Biden’s Gaza policy was tragic, but still, fuck anyone that voted to throw gas onto that fire.

Guy behind the Muslim ban, with the Christian nationalist base, was always going to make things worse.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 43 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

What gas? Biden tried to do ethnic cleansing as well. Biden tried pushing Egypt to accept Israels ethnic cleansing plan behind closed doors and push the Palestinians out of Rafah. Egypt refused.

Biden helped Israel cleanse the West Bank. Do you believe they have right to return over there?

Trumps difference is he is saying the quiet part out loud. And all it does is piss off Egypt and Saudi.

[-] SilentStorms@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 hours ago

You're getting downvoted but nothing you said is incorrect.

[-] jumjummy@lemmy.world 14 points 8 hours ago

How odd, I thought Putin would have given you new talking points by now. You must be one of the older mouthpiece versions.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I reported your comment and it still up. Apparently lemmy.world mods apparently do not remove insults when they defend genocide.

[-] mocha@lemmy.cafe 19 points 10 hours ago
[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

Thank you for destroying it.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Not surprising to say the least. Just have to wonder how bad will it get.

Edit: well that didn't take long. https://www.reuters.com/world/trump-gaza-ceasefire-should-end-saturday-if-hostages-not-released-2025-02-10/

[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 27 points 16 hours ago

What's the end goal here, cause another 9/11 so he can declare martial law?

[-] Cornelius_Wangenheim@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

A gift to Netanyahu for intentionally delaying the ceasefire until after the election to help Trump win.

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[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 hours ago

These chickens will come home to roost, you know.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago

"I'M PROTEST VOTING. " - Dumb Bastards

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 53 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Lmao. Enjoy Dearborn, Michigan. When he kicks you out, you can join them in limbo.

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

This was literally Bidens plan as well.

You can have fun laughing at people that didn't want to vote for someone directly responsible for killing their families (as if you'd be different at all), but don't do it because you think this is something worse that Trump is doing that Biden wouldn't.

[-] ptz@dubvee.org 101 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

"But if the Dems ran a better candidate...."

"But Harris didn't even stop in Dearborn, so it's her fault not ours"

"Sure, everything Trump says is a lie, but at least he stopped here to lie to our faces. It's the dem's fault."

"One of Trump's first acts last time was a Muslim ban, but I can't be arsed to remember that far back"

"I had to vote for this otherwise the dems wouldn't learn anything"

/s

[-] cm0002@lemmy.world 37 points 19 hours ago

"we just had to teach the DNC a lesson at the polls during that specific election!!!"

[-] distantsounds@lemmy.world 23 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

Biden: I just have to aid genocide during an election year when I’m up against an absolute fascist.

Edit: cope and deal with it

[-] mocha@lemmy.cafe 2 points 10 hours ago

Thank you for saving Gaza

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[-] Xanza@lemm.ee 21 points 18 hours ago

But if the Dems ran a better candidate…

This is completely valid criticism. Stop pretending it's not. The DNC is in the habit of specifically going out of their way to choose unpopular pundits, and that's not voters fault.

Voting for Trump, or not voting is their fault...

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[-] RozhkiNozhki@lemmy.world 40 points 19 hours ago

Hey CNN, wanna interview those protest voters again?

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 3 points 11 hours ago

Hey, at least it isn't Kamala doing this. There wouldn't even be any Palestinians left to not return to Gaza!

[-] Placebonickname@lemmy.world 35 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Long story short, when people are hungry and broke and without a place to live, they become desperate, but then when you do something that really makes them angry. They stop being desperate and they start becoming violent. Not just people in the Middle East mind you I’m talking all people from British colonists to French students yelling about revolution all the way down to Germans, who survived the World War I only to see part of their country, giving away the treaty of Versailles. 

 Donald Trump‘s plan is just asking for further acts of terrorism against America and our interest overseas

I feel sorry for any service member who is killed because Donald Trump wants to build another hotel that will inevitably go bankrupt 

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[-] aarRJaay@lemm.ee 9 points 15 hours ago

So.... More concentration camps?

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