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The Epic First Run programme allows developers of any size to claim 100% of revenue if they agree to make their game exclusive on the Epic Games Store for six months.

After the six months are up, the game will revert to the standard Epic Games Store revenue split of 88% for the developer and 12% for Epic Games.

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[-] BURN@lemmy.world 208 points 2 years ago

They can try all they want, but I’ll just wait until the game comes to steam. No game is worth using that dumpster fire of a launcher.

[-] sebinspace@lemmy.world 92 points 2 years ago

Elite Dangerous was their free game for the month awhile back. I made extra accounts and snagged free copies for people that wanted to try it, because I adore that game and love having people to fly with.

You know, oddly enough, no one wants it, even for free, expressly because they don’t want to deal with the dog’s anus EGS launcher.

[-] BURN@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

Yep, I used to pick up the free games, then realized I’d never play any of them because I expressly do not want to deal with the EGS launcher.

It sucks, because it really is better for the devs, but steam is just so much better

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[-] dinckelman@lemmy.world 96 points 2 years ago

The first few months of a game release are absolutely critical, no matter the size of the studio. I won't buy anything on Epic just out of principle, and I'm sure there are countless other people who share the mindset. A 100% share, vs a 70% one, is definitely appealing at first glance, but it'll butcher your numbers for short-term gain

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

It's that upfront money they give that's the big thing for some of these devs I can't blame them for taking that upfront influx of development capital.

Still not buying it from Epic, I hate console exclusivity, including Nintendo, and I'm not going to support it on PC.

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[-] Arkarian@lemmy.zip 69 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Someday maybe they will try to improve the launcher instead of burning all the money in exclusives that only pisses people off. I uninstalled that shit and don't even bother to take the free games anymore.

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[-] thattysonguy@lemmy.world 66 points 2 years ago

Say what you will about epic, but this is compelling as hell for Devs. Hopefully this puts more pressure on Steam to reduce their cut. Competition is good.

If you're so against epic, have a little patience and wait until it comes to steam 6 months later. That's what I'll be doing. But don't just mindlessly shit in epic because you (as a consumer) don't like their business model intended to attract devs. You can dislike something while also recognising the good in it.

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[-] ilickfrogs@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago

Man epic games store is actual industry aids. We don't buy games on steam because we have no other choice. We buy them because it's by far and large the best platform. I don't want 10 different apps for different games. I want my collection in one spot. Epic games sucks. I've never given them a single cent and never will. I've claimed many a free game on there but the irony is I just buy them on sale through steam and never actually play them on epic. I want playtimes, achievements and the games themselves in one fucking spot. If steam becomes wildly anti consumer I would absolutely change my stance. But valve and it's customers have a pretty good relationship imo.

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 39 points 2 years ago

I wish more companies were like Valve. They are following that old style of making a great product and/or providing a great service to make consumers happy to spend their money there. The only mixed feelings I have about spending money on steam is "do I really need more games when there's a ton in my library that I still haven't even installed let alone played?"

I hope they stay private and that Gabe has or finds an heir that follows his mindset rather than decides to go for a quick payout.

Even when those other companies embrace shitty business practices to make more money and it works for them, they are just setting the stage for a better company to come along and replace them.

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[-] bappity@lemmy.world 53 points 2 years ago

you guys can pay developers all you want but nobody is gonna stick if your launcher is still shit

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[-] Adalast@lemmy.world 50 points 2 years ago

God I hate Epic. I hate them with every fiber of my being. The fact that I have to have their crappy, insecure game store bloatware just to try to learn Unreal for personal projects is dumb. Hence why I am learning Unity and Godot.

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[-] jernej@lemmy.ml 47 points 2 years ago

Steam has proton, Epic games does nkt even have a linux launcher, its obvious who I'm sticking with

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

Hey maybe you should make a launcher that isn't shit?

I mean, good on you for paying the developers well but Steam became very popular because they kept improving it.

[-] devbo@lemmy.world 40 points 2 years ago

So is it just me or does every game that becomes a epic exclusive never do as well as they should. i think most game developers realize this, which is why epic is desperate to get developers on their failing launcher. maybe they should try offering all the things steam does. regardless i cant switch because i own too many games on steam, im locked in.

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[-] Rooster@infosec.pub 35 points 2 years ago

They'll get 100% of my zero dollars that way.

[-] MajorHavoc@lemmy.world 35 points 2 years ago

"Let us offer you 100% of the money from a marketplace 0.0001% as large! Did we mention you get all the money that neither of us are making? We will throw in all the good will with gamers we've earned too."

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[-] noirnws@lemm.ee 34 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Never forget that GOG is also an option!

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[-] Wahots@pawb.social 32 points 2 years ago

I already block ads and advertisements, so the game will just be completely off my radar for another six months until I see friends start playing it. Eh. It's far too much effort to try a new platform after the dumpsterfires of Origin and Uplay to play 1-3 games.

The only game I'd actually install a new launcher for would be a new Half Life Game.

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[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 31 points 2 years ago

I mean that's seems like a decent deal for developers but I'm not buying it until it goes Steam and GoG.

[-] Infinity187@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago

Lol, Epic losing steam? No pun intended.

Also, fuck Epic.

[-] Anti_Face_Weapon@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Other posters seem to forget that competition is very important for this kind of thing.

Sure it's annoying when Epic stops games releasing in other platforms, and especially how the epic launcher and it's games do not support Linux.

But without competition, steam can continue with an insanely high cut of indie game sales, and that is NOT ok.

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[-] red@sopuli.xyz 28 points 2 years ago

Fuck Epic and any store who tries to remove games from others.

[-] newthrowaway20@lemmy.world 25 points 2 years ago

They've done everything to encourage game developers, expecting consumers to follow. But none of this entices me to leave steam. I, like many, will gladly wait.

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[-] blue_zephyr@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

How about you improve your goddamn service instead of holding my games hostage on your shitty launcher?

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[-] lazyvar@programming.dev 23 points 2 years ago
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[-] regbin_@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago

I don't have a problem with Epic offering this. The problem is with publishers that take this offer. Bunch of greedy bastards.

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[-] kryllic@programming.dev 20 points 2 years ago

Reeks of desperation, Tim's hate boner for Valve seem to drive a lot of Epic's policies

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[-] Jaded@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 years ago

Ouf, crazy how many people are actually pushing for valve to have a complete monopoly. Ya it's a good product but so was chrome. Diversity is important for consumers.

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago

Funny how most of us are also just fine with GoG, green man gaming, humble bundle, and the like. Just because a lot of people don't like one particular store front and practices doesn't mean we're cheering on monopolization.

[-] verysoft@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

If an actual competitor arises sure, but why support scummy anti-consumer practices?

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[-] Nefyedardu@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago

"Monopoly", and yet when a game is on Steam I can buy it wherever I want. What stores can I buy Epic exclusives exactly?

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[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Just because the competition fucking sucks ass doesn't mean the best one has a monopoly. 🤦‍♂️ There is still competition... It's just weak as shit.

Maybe if the competition stepped up and offered similar services and functions, they wouldn't need to pull bullshit like Epic is with exclusivity deals, and actually take some market share.

GOG Galaxy is a decent one. It actually offers a lot of what makes Steam so strong. It's still not as good, but they also deal with a certain niche area of gaming, making even their store more relevant than EGS, Origin, etc.

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[-] Stinkywinks@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago

Guess I'll get the game on sale

[-] ngwoo@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

This is probably a worse deal than the previous offer of guaranteed revenue regardless of performance.

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