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DUBAI, United Arab Emirates — Iran's supreme leader said Friday that negotiations with America “are not intelligent, wise or honorable” after President Donald Trump floated nuclear talks with Tehran.

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei also suggested that “there should be no negotiations with such a government,” but stopped short of issuing a direct order not to engage with Washington.

Khamenei's remarks upend months of signals from Tehran to the United States that it wanted to negotiate over its rapidly advancing nuclear program in exchange for the lifting of crushing economic sanctions worth billions of dollars.

Khamenei noted that Trump unilaterally withdrew from the earlier nuclear deal under which Iran drastically limited its enrichment of uranium and overall stockpile of the material, in exchange for crushing sanctions being removed.

“The Americans did not uphold their end of the deal,” Khamenei said. “The very person who is in office today tore up the agreement. He said he would, and he did.”

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[-] arafatknee@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 hours ago

Unless you're Israel, the US are backstabbers at the best of times.

[-] kikutwo@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago

Save us, Iran. Please.

[-] uis@lemm.ee 11 points 20 hours ago

Even Iran? What world do we live in?

[-] rustydrd@sh.itjust.works 18 points 22 hours ago

Yeah, you tell 'em... uh... *checks notes*... Ayatollah Ali Khamenei?

[-] Stern@lemmy.world 93 points 1 day ago

Not intelligent, wise, or honorable. Yeah that about sums up the Trump admin.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Yeah. At the same time, pot meet kettle

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago

Go look at the context as he’s saying it makes no sense to negotiate with the guy who tore up the last agreement which Iran was honoring.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

While I agree with him in this specific context, I don’t find Khamenei intelligent or honorable either, which is why I said what I said.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 34 points 1 day ago

Iran elected a more moderate president. Then Israel bombed the Hamas leader at the presidents inauguration.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

I know. That doesn’t change the fact that Khamenei is an oppressive autocrat, and power ultimately doesn’t preside with the presidency there.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago

You convinced me. There is no other solution than to bomb Irans nuclear sites and power infrastructure. Also take out a few dams and grain silos while we are at it to really liberate those oppressed people.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I didn’t advocate for any of that. All I did was point out Iran’s leadership also sucks.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago

They tried to suck less and then America put a knife in their back. Which is not very encouraging.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I was not happy when Trump unilaterally pulled out of the deal; I have wondered if Hamas’ October 7th attack even happens if rapprochement with Iran continued rather than what ended up happening, but I am also not convinced Iranian leadership was much interested in changing much beyond getting sanctions relief. US actions aren’t the reason why they’re oppressive to women and LGBT folks or why they’re supplying arms to Russia in aid of their invasion of Ukraine. Maybe the latter would be different if Russia wasn’t one of their only options for trading partners, it’s tough to say.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

US actions are partially the reason though. The population could have changed if it was not being actively convinced not to do so.

Instead of moderates, hardliners became more popular because of the constant US threat, refusing to normalize, and not holding up its end of deals.

Iran has a long history of US and European meddling and stealing their oil since 1953. You might not understand but they have plenty of reason to fear the US. And they have been betrayed many times when they let their guard down.

It would be akin to asking why Ukrainians do not love Russian culture after Russia invaded their country and bombed them.

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 2 points 23 hours ago

I know about the CIA/MI6 backed coup in ‘53. I think it definitely led to the revolution, but I also feel that revolution was co-opted by autocratic religious extremists.

I think the crackdowns during the protests that came in the wake of Mahsa Amini’s murder support my view that they’re autocratic. They have taken no concrete steps to improve women’s rights, and any and all presidential candidates must be approved by the Ayatollah so they’re really just controlled opposition at best.

Don’t interpret any of this as saying the US has any moral high ground to stand on, because what bits of American policy I have been proud of are rapidly evaporating.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago

I have not followed recent developments much but I recall the new president partially aborting the new headscarf law. https://apnews.com/article/iran-mandatory-headscarf-hijab-law-protests-26e6015d6e47b18238f0ac4c08c4d33a

Whether this was followed up on I do not know.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

Iran's "President" is a figurehead with no real power. Having one be more "moderate" would not change the country's direction, regardless of whether the US bombed it or not.
Their Supreme Leader (chosen by a closed council) is the one who actually sets policy and has effectively full control, then their president follows those policies.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

The president did promise to revert many of the more conservative laws and extended an olive branch in exchange for sanction relief. Which was quickly set ablaze.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The Iranian President runs the day to day governance. The Grand Ayatollah focuses on the bigger picture.

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[-] not_that_guy05@lemmy.world 23 points 23 hours ago

Trump is making people agree with the people we don't like due to their stance on people.

Can this be any worse?

[-] charade_you_are@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago

You know it can be with these stupid fucks in charge

[-] UncleGrandPa@lemmy.world 15 points 22 hours ago

ya....that's going to be the general theme in foreign affairs. from now on... lots of face palms.

[-] MothmanDelorian@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago

Why would Iran enter into negotiations with a country that failed to honor them the last time?

[-] singletona@lemmy.world 36 points 1 day ago

For once I agree with the Iranians. Not Wise, Honorable, or Intelligent. Sums Trump up perfectly.

[-] Bieren@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

When Iran is calling you out for being an idiot, you know you done fucked up.

[-] seven_phone@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Welcome to the club.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

Khamenei noted that Trump unilaterally withdrew from the earlier nuclear deal under which Iran drastically limited its enrichment of uranium and overall stockpile of the material, in exchange for crushing sanctions being removed.

“The Americans did not uphold their end of the deal,” Khamenei said. “The very person who is in office today tore up the agreement. He said he would, and he did.”

He added: "This is an experience we must learn from. We negotiated, we gave concessions, we compromised— but we did not achieve the results we aimed for. And despite all its flaws, the other side ultimately violated and destroyed the agreement.”

"Con . .se . . whatses??"

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