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[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 135 points 1 month ago
[-] turkalino@lemmy.yachts 124 points 1 month ago

Remember when Aaron Swartz tried to do something similar and received multiple life sentences

[-] guaraguaito 74 points 1 month ago

And was intimidated so bad by the legal system he killed himself.

[-] WilfordGrimley@linux.community 7 points 1 month ago

p sure he Epsteined himself.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 19 points 4 weeks ago

What Swartz did was not even close. What he did was absolutely fair use. He downloaded shit from JSTOR while at MIT which is fine because MIT allows students and employees to access JSTOR. There was no evidence that he shared anything.

[-] albert180@discuss.tchncs.de 71 points 1 month ago

If they don't respect copyright I don't respect it either

[-] Tolookah@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 1 month ago

We just need to wait until copyright regulations get killed... Right?

[-] Bezier@suppo.fi 13 points 1 month ago

Right?

Right...?

Surely they would...

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Copyright lobby begs to differ. 😂

[-] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

My Mullvad account begs to differ. And it makes my banker happy!

[-] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 64 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Meta did not immediately respond to Ars' request for comment and has maintained throughout the litigation that AI training on LibGen was "fair use."

When I upload a single half century old photo to Wikipedia, I have to fill out a relatively complicated form proving that it meets "fair use" standards. Internet Archive got legally fucked for allowing people to read their book scans without restriction for a while. And now these absolute cunts have the gall to defer to "fair use"! I really wonder if the same authors and publishing houses who sued IA will do anything about this.

[-] lord_ryvan@ttrpg.network 43 points 4 weeks ago

See, Meta is rich and US laws don't seem to apply to American oligarchs.

[-] AnEilifintChorcra@sopuli.xyz 62 points 1 month ago

“Plaintiffs do not plead a single instance in which any part of any book was, in fact, downloaded by a third party from Meta via torrent, much less that Plaintiffs’ books were somehow distributed by Meta,” the company writes.

Another reason to hate Meta, now they're scummy leechers even though they could afford the bandwidth to seed back

[-] Telorand@reddthat.com 34 points 1 month ago

Capitalists aren't in the business of sharing.

[-] nesc@lemmy.cafe 59 points 1 month ago

Of course they didn't seed. Fucking leeches.

[-] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 weeks ago

They were leeches without the torrenting.

[-] a1studmuffin@aussie.zone 59 points 1 month ago

This doesn’t mean that Meta denies using shadow libraries, its argument is that using such data to train its LLM models constitutes fair use under U.S. copyright law.

Oh wow, I'm very much looking forward to this argument... "We believe pirating the copyrighted commercial works of others en masse to develop our own commercial product constitutes fair use... China bad!"

[-] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 37 points 1 month ago

And they probably never reseeded it afterwards either, the inconsiderate prats

[-] azron@lemmy.ml 36 points 1 month ago

And they should pay for every book they stole :)

[-] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 weeks ago
[-] hannesh93@feddit.org 7 points 4 weeks ago

What do you think?

Meta also allegedly modified settings "so that the smallest amount of seeding possible could occur,"

[-] zaknenou@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 month ago
[-] chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 4 weeks ago

I don't usually like Meta, but here they used that data to produce open weights models available to the public. That sort of thing is what piracy is for so I support it.

[-] cupcakezealot 2 points 1 month ago

That's a lot of Far Side books.

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