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[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 65 points 11 months ago

Where are all those free speech absolutists that were so noisy the last several years?

(The question is rhetorical; we know where they are)

[-] infectoid@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

I’m still waiting for them to say “this is literally 1984… something something instruction manual”

[-] Shawdow194@fedia.io 39 points 11 months ago

Trump and his fellow fascists use terms like DEI to describe anything they don’t like, which means that the word “women” is on the forbidden list while “men” doesn’t initiate a review.

Straight white men are seen through the MAGA worldview as the default human and thus wouldn’t be suspicious and in need of a review. Any other type of identity is inherently suspect.

It’s still not clear what happens on the other side of all this. But when they’re flagging words like “women” and “trauma,” less than three weeks in, it can’t be good.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

They're flagging words that have scientific applications that have nothing to do with anything divisive but are also used with things they find divisive. You can't use "barrier" or "historically" or fucking "polarization."

[-] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Ironically, my primary area of study was Marxist theory with an emphasis on bureaucracy, and those words aren’t on the list. But once again, STEM gets all the attention.

[-] TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip 8 points 11 months ago

Talking about REMOVING BIAS from your scientific study? How DARE you.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Please explain what is biased about the three words I just listed. What are they biased against, cells, time and magnetism?

[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Bias is a banned word, thats what they were pointing out.

Edit: In specific

  • biased
  • biased toward
  • biases
  • biases towards
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Considering the down votes they got, I don't think you were the only person to take what they said differently, the conservatives out there are really fucking up even basic communication with this crap.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Very much so.

[-] RandomVideos@programming.dev 26 points 11 months ago

I thought gender was a strange word to ban

THEY ARE PROHIBITING THE USE OF THE WORD "BIASED"

[-] ivanafterall@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

How else do you get rid of all of the biased papers?

[-] guaraguaito 25 points 11 months ago
  • disabilities
  • disability

Fucking hell, I ain’t allowed to be disabled anymore?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

You're allowed to be invisible. That's what they want you to be. That or dead. (I'm sorry, I was disabled for years myself.)

[-] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 11 months ago

No sir, you’re cured by edict of the government.

Hope you don’t need accommodations or assistance, because if you do, RFK might ship you off to a slave labor camp until your disability is no longer an issue.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago

They’re gonna be reading a lot of medical papers just from banning the word “trauma,” to say nothing of common words like “female” and “black.”

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

I'm thinking "black" is kind of an important word in a lot of scientific applications that have nothing to do with medicine or biology.

[-] Neuromancer49@midwest.social 12 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Here's a quick off-the-cuff list of neuroscience domains, not part of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, that will be impacted by this censorship. This is not an exhaustive list, it's just what I thought of after thinking critically for 10 minutes.

It goes without saying this practice is evil and reprehensible. No academic domain should be politically targeted. But it reaches more than their targets. It is dangerous. It is unscientific. It is book-burning. Contact your representatives. Take action. Donate to good causes.

Patient advocacy for people who have had a stroke, or have dementia, or have any number of disabilities, hereditary or acquired.

Any research about the blood brain barrier, including development of drugs that can cross it more efficiently.

Any research about the placental barrier, including development of safe medications for birthing people.

Research into cognitive bias.

Development of statistics (including Bayesian, the hot frontier), machine learning (that's AI for anyone who prefers that term), where the term bias is used to talk about parameters and model performance.

Basic visual and auditory science, where we talk about visual and auditory discrimination.

Sex differences research- this isn't just a social issue, we don't understand how differences in metabolism impact drug metabolism. Can't have female mice anymore, apparently.

Basic research in the function of neurons, which polarize, depolarize, hyperpolarize, etc.

Concussion research and, again, stroke research. The field is broadly known as traumatic brain injury.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Basic research in the function of neurons, which polarize, depolarize, htperpolarize, etc.

This is the one that gets me the most.

Not just neurons- Any research into electromagnetism.

One of the fundamental forces? Too bad. You aren't allowed to talk about that.

[-] Neuromancer49@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago

Sunglasses with polarized lenses? Worrying about eye cancer is too woke.

[-] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I can't imagine that flags will get awards automatically cancelled. Any human (f)MRI work is going to describe its participant inclusion or exclusion criteria, because you can't put people with any risk of metal in their bodies within an MRI machine. Republicans tend to like brain research because the military really likes it. Additionally, virtually all NSF broader impacts will contain at least some speculative verbiage like, "this could help to increase representation." My guess is that flags return an AI or actual person review, which then makes a decision. Some folks at my university have been told that their awards have been cancelled. My awards that have some of these words haven't been cancelled.

[-] Neuromancer49@midwest.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The article describes the review process - you're right, these words just flag a paper for further review. I wonder if it's an automatic flagging system like you suggested.

However, it took me almost a decade of rigorous training to understand my research. I sure as hell don't trust an elected or appointed official with a political vendetta to critically read my grants. Leave politics out of peer review.

This is still an emergency situation, IMHO. Like you said, people's grants are being canceled. I see this as a direct attack against higher education.

ETA: It's also a waste of taxpayer money. These grants are already competing for meager funds. Why should we siphon away any resources to "investigate" them?

[-] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

I completely agree on all points.

[-] Jordan117@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

something something Tiananmen Square

[-] dohpaz42@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Further proof that the people making the rules have no clue what they’re regulating.

Anybody who has read an academic/science paper knows that the authors go all out with their $5 and $10 words. Make no mistake, they can find some of the best alternatives to any word, and will have no problem sidestepping this blacklist.

[-] lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 11 months ago

That's going to be harder when they have to dance around technical terms like bias in statistics or machine learning

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