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[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 82 points 19 hours ago

Notice how the state of Israel has nothing to say about this?

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 58 points 18 hours ago
[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 17 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Holy shit. The Zionist part of the organisation has completely eaten the anti-hate part.

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[-] bigFab@lemmy.world 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

That (nazi salute) isn't antisemitic at all!

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

For fuck sake.

My point was that while Independent Jewish leaders are calling for the boycott. The State of Israel on the other hand, is holding hands up with Trump like a tag team.

[-] phar@lemmy.ml 11 points 10 hours ago

Pretty sure that was his point too

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

I'm pretty sure they understood your point... not sure you got theirs.

[-] Crikeste@lemm.ee 4 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

You’re right, it isn’t!

Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism. In fact, I’m pretty sure it is in direct OPPOSITION to Judaism, if you follow the fundamentals.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 6 minutes ago

For a religion this old, you will find a lot of people with different ideas about the "fundamentals". There is a lot of Jewish scholars that reject Zionism and in particular in the beginning of the Zionist movement it was strongly opposed by religious scholars. They had to work quite extensively to create a "new understanding" of how to mix Zionism with Judaism, which over the time led to there now being particularly extreme Zionists, who claim to base it off of Judaism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Early_Jewish_anti-Zionism

[-] MiDaBa@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago

That's because Isreal has been slowly co-opted by xenophobic right wing extramists under the guise of survival.

[-] wildbus8979@sh.itjust.works 10 points 17 hours ago

Always has been. Pre WW2 socialist Jewish currents pretty much all unanimously opposed Zionism.

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 22 hours ago

So, a real group of Jewish Leaders rather than a Zionist sockpuppet like the ADL.

[-] rational_lib@lemmy.world 19 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

The salute is just a symbol of much larger antisemitic moves by Elon. It's not hard to find neo Nazis posting swastikas and the like on X and many Jewish users have indicated that reporting those images goes nowhere despite them being specifically enumerated as banned in the official terms of use. There's plenty of evidence out there that Elon is in fact a far right racist if not outright Nazi.

[-] urandom@lemmy.world 9 points 19 hours ago

A rich white guy from South Africa might be a nazi? I hardly believe it!

[-] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 47 points 1 day ago

Nazi salutes. He did it twice.

[-] billiam0202@lemmy.world 17 points 21 hours ago

Hey, at least they called it "Nazi" and not something wishy-washy like "awkward", "problematic", or "Elon Musk salute".

[-] Bridger@sh.itjust.works 10 points 18 hours ago

In what let's call the Jewish diaspora there is a strong thread of fascism. The fascists currently (and for some time now) are in control of the israeli government. If the israeli people were not in support of such fascism they are doing a poor job of expressing it. Globally fascism among jews is not universal, probably not even a majority though I have no hard data here. Anecdotally among the Jewish people I know there is one rabidly fascist of the kill all the Palestinians ilk, a few who claim not to support genocide but will get loud and in your face at any criticism of it and many who are disgusted by it and will openly say so. Your mileage may vary.

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 138 points 1 day ago

Could you guys also scrap the ADL? They seem to have jumped the shark in defense of his nazi salute.

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[-] chemicalwonka@discuss.tchncs.de 86 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I know a good boycott to the oligarchs

1000045880

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[-] TommySoda@lemmy.world 70 points 1 day ago

I find it very on brand for these guys to simultaneously piss off Jewish people and Palestinians within just a couple weeks.

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[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 6 points 19 hours ago

What are the Holocaust Jokes referenced in the title? Didn't find an explanation in the article.

For context, I'm a German missing out on many news and stories, for sanity reasons. But I'd like to know more about this.

[-] ZigZagZebra@lemmy.world 22 points 19 hours ago

Elon's response to the world saying they saw a Nazi salute at the presidential inauguration. Not quite an "oops, I didn't mean it that way"

[-] Corno@lemm.ee 15 points 18 hours ago

The fact that 152 thousand people hearted that post is so disheartening.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

Wanna take bets on how many of them are bots, and Elon's personal alt accounts just heart it himself?

He's a billionaire, he has nothing that he has to do.

[-] Spzi@lemm.ee 13 points 18 hours ago

Elon’s response to the world saying they saw a Nazi salute at the presidential inauguration. Not quite an “oops, I didn’t mean it that way”

Oh, WOW! Glad I asked. Will happily add this to a conversation with a 'skeptical' friend.

Honestly, I found some genuinely funny and actually laughed. But I would never share stuff like that in public, if at all, certainly not in a position like Musk, especially not after that salute. Guess he's testing the waters or normalizing.

Anyways, thanks a lot for the info with screenshot! Once more, reality trumps satire. When asking the question, I thought it might be about some hints here and there requiring interpretation. I did not expect something so blatant.

[-] ZigZagZebra@lemmy.world 8 points 17 hours ago

yeah, I think context really matters here. He also made these jokes on Jan 23, the day that Auschwitz was liberated, and is held as a day of remembrance. He's got a dog train whistle.

[-] tree_frog@lemm.ee 2 points 14 hours ago

Wasn't it also Martin Luther King Jr Day?

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