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Donald Trump has said that Palestinians have “no alternative” but to leave Gaza due to the devastation left by Israel’s war on Hamas, in effect endorsing ethnic cleansing of the territory over the opposition of Palestinians and the neighbouring countries.

Speaking as he prepared to host Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, on Tuesday, Trump repeated the suggestion that Gaza’s population should be relocated to Jordan and Egypt – something both countries have firmly rejected.

Trump claimed Palestinians would “love to leave Gaza”, telling reporters: “I would think that they would be thrilled.”

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[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

I'd ask protest voters if they're feeling pretty stupid right now, but the truth is they never gave a flying fuck about Palestinians. They only cared about feeling morally superior.

Trash humans.

[-] TheFunkyPickle@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 hour ago

I feel for the Palestinian people. Their genocide will accelerate.

[-] endeavor@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 hours ago

Wellllll technically those who voted against Kamala to stop israeli genocide got what they wanted. Israel no longer has to genocide Palestinians.

[-] RamenJunkie@midwest.social 1 points 2 hours ago

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[-] telllos@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago

But kamala was pro israel!!!

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

Americans have no choice but bring Trump to justice STAT.

[-] adm@lemm.ee 13 points 5 hours ago

It's right to be angry. I don't have an answer. I think few people realize that most genocides are actually successful and forgotten.

[-] ahumana@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 hours ago

Amazing. I would be thrilled if I was living in that rumble with jihadi overlords. Lets be honest if the gazans were given free pass (for example) to come to the west, gaza would be deserted. Even neighbouring countries are far better to live in. This is an opportunity of a life time if it actually comes to fruition. Trump is really thinking outside of the box to bring an end to this artificial conflict for good.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 1 points 52 minutes ago

Trump is really thinking outside of the box to bring an end to this artificial conflict for good.

Rounding people up and dumping them in another country.

I honestly don't know what to do with your comment other than laugh at it.

Gaza is an open air prison!

Okay, you can leave to build a new life somewhere else.

Nooooooo, that’s genocide!

[-] superkret@feddit.org 46 points 8 hours ago

In 1940, the Nazis' plan was to relocate all Jews to Madagascar.
Just 2 years later, they started exterminating them systematically.

[-] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 3 points 55 minutes ago

Yup.

They went from passing oppressive laws against Jews to turning them to ash in a frighteningly short period of time.

Fascism is 100% here and our nation is asleep at the fucking wheel.

Never been more ashamed to be an American.

Population transfers aren’t unheard of. In Greece/Turkey, Italians from eastern Adriatic, German from Prussia and Silesia, Pakistan/India millions of people moved.

This Holocaust comparison is completely dishonest and betrays any knowledge of how it happened. Used in this context, it’s Holocaust relativism at best and likely antisemitic.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 2 hours ago

Just so you know: In the India/Pakistan relocation, millions died.

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 30 points 8 hours ago

Americans making this about Trump vs Kamala is getting really really annoying. I mean, we get it, you are pissed off at each other. We've read the same arguments dozens of times already, and at this point it is getting extremely tired. It sucks the oxygen out of every conversation. Is this what the discourse is going to be around Palestine and Israel the next four years?

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

You are commenting on an article specifically about Trump

[-] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

The US President, yes. You have to understand that internationally, at this point, we just see him as just that: The US President. Your elections are your internal issue and we don't need to be expending all our energy psychoanalyzing your electoral system. As not-an-american, I don't give a damn about how mad you are at your fellow citizens who might or might not have stayed home at election day or voted in a way that you think was stupid. Not every fucking world event needs to be understood from the perspective of the role of Jill Fucking Stein as a spoiler candidate.

EDIT: Rule number 1 says "[...] Not United States Internal News [...]". This applies to posts, but I think after a certain point, overtly brigading every fucking world event thread with the internal US perspective kind of beats the point.

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[-] sozesoze@lemmy.world 29 points 9 hours ago

The amount of hatred against phantom leftists that on the one hand lost the Dems the vote and on the other were too weak to have their demands considered is crazy.

No, these people didn't lose you the vote. They don't even exist in this ambivalent form. It was everyday citizens that heard Democrats push the same racist border talking points Trump spewed last election and went "Hm, if even the Dems say this is a problem, I'll vote the party that talked about how evil Migrants were for decades, the GOP". It's people tired of increasingly struggling to make ends meet and the Dems saying everything will stay the same, while Trump promised them change. We know that he just means destroying the last remnants of social security nets for poor people and everything that stands in the way for oligarchs making kaijulllian dollars. But people are stupid and desperate. Why can't the Democratic party be held to a higher standard than whatever this is?

[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 19 points 8 hours ago

The Dems are constantly held to a vastly higher standard. This was true when trump first came to power too.

Hillary: competent politician, could have smiled more maybe, no big changes.

Trump: grab em by the pussy, pay hush money to porn stars, ramble incoherently.

Public: what about her emails?

[-] sozesoze@lemmy.world 9 points 7 hours ago

No, they aren't. Expecting the Dems to get the vote by not being the fascists is a low standard. They have to present more than that. They didn't, in fact, and now the party blames leftists for not voting hard enough when it's their failure.

Jesus, when Luigi Mangione allegedly killed that healthcare CEO, it showed how the entire country liked seeing that, and the Democratic party has no idea what kind of campaign they could maybe run? I'm not saying they should run on a billionaire purge platform, but c'mon, maybe use your one billion dollar campaign funds for sending a message for you and not against the other one. Instead we got a 25k grant for a house purchase if you jump through three hoops. Wow, inspiring stuff.

And Hillary Clinton being characterized as making "no big changes" tells the whole story here. Her opponent went on a "drain the swamp", "we're going to make America great again" campaign and building up a hispanic and muslim scape goat. Everyone who is educated knew these were lies, but people were bad off, even then, and needed change. To be a hawkish candidate in a war exhausted society who runs on nothing but trying to achieve the first female presidential office is a weak attempt at saving America from Trump.

[-] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Luigi mangione was having dinner with me when it happened.

[-] nsrxn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 8 hours ago

Hilary is responsible for Trump. she pushed him in the primary.

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