So the same people who have no problem about using other people's copyrighted work, are now crying when the Chinese do the same to them? Find me a nano-scale violin so I can play a really sad song.

Stealing from thieves is not theft

Cry me a fucking river, David.

Oh are we supposed to care about substantial evidence of theft now? Because there’s a few artists, writers, and other creatives that would like to have a word with you…

Bruh, these guys trained their own AI on so called "puplicly available" content. Except it was, and still is, completely without consent from, or compensation to said artists/bloggers/creators etc.. Don't throw rocks when you live in a glass house 🤌

Womp womp. I'm sure openAI asked for permission from the creators for all its training data, right? Thief complains about someone else stealing their stolen goods, more at 11.

OpenAI's mission statement is also in their name. The fact that they have a proprietary product that is not open source is criminal and should be sued out of existence. They are now just like the Sun Micro after Apache was made open sourced; irrelevant they just haven't gotten the memo yet. No company can compete against the whole world.

Your point OpenAI? Weren't you part of the group saying training AI wasn't copyright infringement? Not so happy when it's your shit being copied? Huh. Weird.

so he's just admitting that deepseek did a better job than openai but for a fraction of the price? it only gets better.

When you can't win, accuse them of cheating.

Me pretending to care about David Sacks claim:

Here's the thing... It was a bubble because you can't wall off the entire concept of AI. This revelation was just an acceleration displaying what should've been obvious.

There are many many open models available for people to fuck around with. I have in a homelab setting, just to keep abreast of what is going on, get a general idea how it works and what its capable of.

What most normie followers of AI don't seem to understand is, whether you're doing LLM or machine learning object detection or something, you can get open software that is "good enough" and run it locally. If you have a raspberry pi you can run some of this stuff, and it will be slow, but acceptable for many use cases.

So the concept that only OpenAI would ever hold the keys and should therefore have massive valuation in perpetuity, that is just laughable. This Chinese company just highlighted that you can bruteforce train more optimized models on garbage-tier hardware.

I couldn't give less of a fuck.

FUD, just to distract from the crushing multibillion dollar defeat they’ve just been dealt. First stage of grief: denial. Second: anger. Third: bargaining. We’re somewhere between 2 and 3 right now.

Open AI stole all of our data to train their model. If this is true, no sympathy.

Copycat gets copycatted.

Yes, so what?

https://stratechery.com/2025/deepseek-faq/

Who the fuck cares? They're all doing this.

It's only ok when we do it, cause we're the good guys!

They're obviously trying so hard for regulatory capture in the states it's embarrassing.

If there's one thing we know about American AI companies it's that they have a spotless record when it comes to data ethics. Never touched unauthorized data. Swear! Not even once. Of course not.

Well you can't run openai's models yourself so pretty sure deepseek would've had to pay for API access. How is that stealing again?

They’re eating each other.

Whoop de doo

So what? It's absolutely true and makes absolutely no difference to anyone

I still prefer Andisearch over all others, it was rhe first AI search long before all other were released, with own LLM not a copy from others.

Good luck suing them