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[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 156 points 2 months ago

Until it eventually does come to steam. Please don't listen to these fuckers. They will say whatever they can for profit. It wouldn't be the first time these people have lied about this exact thing only for the game to come to steam a year later.

[-] Wildly_Utilize@infosec.pub 50 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Maybe, but its on fitgirl now if they don't want your money

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I'm afraid to ask what that is.

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[-] Hubi@feddit.org 105 points 2 months ago

I confirm that I'm never going to buy it then.

[-] mp3@lemmy.ca 83 points 2 months ago

I'll buy it when it comes to GOG then.

[-] dditty@lemm.ee 75 points 2 months ago

The game wasn't even profitable after a year as a result of not being on Steam, according to the article. Pretty interesting

[-] alessandro@lemmy.ca 22 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Epic profittability is on Fortnite; there will be lot of skin based on Alan Wake franchise and, also, Fortnite ads everytime you launch AW2 form their launcher etc.

...as for Alan Wake franchise itself, well it goes in the epic games store marketing black hole

[-] inclementimmigrant@lemmy.world 53 points 2 months ago

Cool. I guess I won't be buying it then and will simply sail the seas when I finally feel like playing it after all the games I bought on steam and gog.

[-] kautau@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Yup, any “never” decision under modern capitalism should be treated at “within this quarter.” All that matters is quarterly growth, and all company decisions will change every quarter

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 51 points 2 months ago

Epic Games? The place with all the free games? Why would I buy something from the free store?

[-] rtxn@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

In other words: Sweeney still can't get people to use his inferior service. I can't wait to see him cry about Valve's alleged anti-competitive behaviour yet again.

Wish I could just wire money straight to Remedy. Best I could do was buy Control again on GOG and consider my seafaring soul free of sin.

[-] Zacryon@feddit.org 44 points 2 months ago

That's okay, since I am never coming to Epic Games. Seems only fair.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 41 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

This is the bullshit that makes me hate Epic games. I want Fortnite to die already so Tim Sweeney can eff right off.

A exclusive war only one person is waging...

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

I dislike Epic as much as the next guy, but he's not the only one waging it, lol. Try to find any of Valve's games on the Epic marketplace.

[-] Owljfien@lemm.ee 6 points 2 months ago

I was about to say it isn't the same before googling and realising that they are the publisher for Alan Wake 2. I guess there might still be the nuance of develop vs publish, does Valve publish any games that it didn't develop/weren't mods of their titles? (Genuinely don't know)

Either way, I'm still buttmad about the rocket league situation

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[-] FartsWithAnAccent@fedia.io 41 points 2 months ago

Shame, I'm never buying a game from the Epic Store.

Oh well.

[-] altima_neo@lemmy.zip 34 points 2 months ago

Sucks for Remedy then, since they won't be getting my money.

[-] Codilingus@sh.itjust.works 31 points 2 months ago

What a shame, it's in my top 3 games I've ever played, but I pirated it because Epic app sucks ass. Was going to buy it once it was on Steam.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 30 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

That's fine, I will never purchase Alan Wake 2 then

[-] stardust@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago

It'll eventually be included in a giveaway anyways like Control was. So if I haven't bought it by now I'm fine waiting for the giveaway.

[-] Macaroni_ninja@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

This only hurts us, gamers. Stop this exclusivity BS and be competitive with better features, customer service and convenience.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

How does it hurt you? Look, I get that people dislike using multiple launchers, but it's not like you have to buy a console to play the god damn game. The melodrama is crazy, all you have to do to play it besides buying the game is download epic's launcher. If you're in Linux, it's a bit more of a pain, but hardly.

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 19 points 2 months ago

By using their service and giving them money, you're validating their shitty practices and propagating this garbage across multiple platforms when other companies see it's profitable.

If you want gaming to get better, stop giving bad companies your money and attention.

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[-] NeryK@sh.itjust.works 25 points 2 months ago

Epic actually financed Remedy's development of the game, as opposed to swooping in at the last minute to offer a timed-exclusivity deal. In that case I was fine buying the game on their platform if it meant the game got to exist at all. After all I do not expect Valve to sell their games on another platform than their own.

Don't get me wrong: I'd rather the game was sold on Steam, or even better, DRM-less on GOG. I did wait for a number of those timed exclusives to find their way on Steam or other stores (Borderlands 3, Kena, Journey, Control, Hades, etc). It's a shame that so many people will not get to experience AW2 because of its delivery platform, because it's a damn unique game.

[-] whats_all_this_then@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

As much as I hate Epic, I actually bought AW2 based on that logic but ended up refunding it because, and I can not stress this enough, FUCK ALWAYS ONLINE REQUIREMENTS ON PURELY OFFLINE GAMES. I refuse to pay for an offline game that locks me out when my internet isn't working...doubly so when the pirated version works perfectly fine without internet.

P.S. I also refuse to pay for single player games with arbitrary online "features" made to force a DRM check, or games published by cunts that do layoffs and shutter studios while posting record profits but that's a different conversation.

[-] hexorg@programming.dev 19 points 2 months ago

That’s what they said about red dead redemption too

[-] ErsatzCoalButter@beehaw.org 19 points 2 months ago

mfw i don't pay them money

[-] Rakenclaw@fedia.io 17 points 2 months ago

Oh well, there are other games to buy.

[-] Lojcs@lemm.ee 17 points 2 months ago

Hopium take 1:
There's no reason they'd reveal their plans to bring it to steam early and cannibalize on the epic store sales

Hopium take 2:
Even if they don't have plans right now if they ever want some quick money to meet targets or something it's the prime candidate

Hopium take 3:
When or if remedy starts making money (like from control 2) they might buy the publishing rights back

Hopium take 4:
It'll run better anyways when Alan wake 2 remastered comes out in 10 years

[-] Agent_Karyo@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Option #4 sounds most realistic.

[-] novacomets@lemmy.myserv.one 13 points 2 months ago

Why do people love Steam's DRM on everything, online only gameplay? Why do people love Steams totalitarian control and extortion deals?

If people could built their own Steam client, it wouldn't be so bad. I use Heroic on Windows for both Epic and GOG and get new games through Heroic so there can't be telemetry or data gathering. Why won't Valve allow a libre/free software Steam client to play games and let go of what people choose to install on their computer. I'm nit asking for DRM-free games, I'm asking ti stop dictator how I am allowed to play games.

[-] Godort@lemm.ee 31 points 2 months ago

Because Steam's DRM is entirely unobtrusive, it doesn't require online-only gameplay and the customer experience is excellent.

When Epic tries to compete with Steam they don't look to make a better user experience, instead they bribe developers for exclusivity deals to force people on their platform if they want to play a game on release.

[-] Onyxonblack@lemm.ee 5 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I left steam. Only interested in offline installers from GOG.. When WWIII hits and players are still reliant on Steam's Online DRM Leased versions of your games, like come on already!.. No Internet,no games.. I'm burning all these games onto M-Disc media.. I can sell games for bullets and food in the apocalypse!! Woo!

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 months ago

Valve made it super convinient for their customers and they also took steps to encourage content creation with SFM, Source Engine, sharing their own assets. They created working cloud saving and mod sharing solutions, greenlighting a bunch of indies based on votes and being on the side of the customer in disputes over refunds with 2hr rule becomingthe new norm. For years, they provided and improved their service, so it's rare to see anyone complaining about that.

Ah, and Epic killed UT4 in beta when they found their initial zombie game mode that became Fortnite gave them that much cash they could start their own marketplace with regular giveaways and exclusives going on for years. I'm fucking pissed at them for that even now. It is irrational and personal, but Valve didn't kill my favorite game series, it's the opposite, since they kept slowly releasing and constantly updating Dota, CS, create Alyx, keep TF2 alive, and I'm only sad Alien Swarm would never see new content. In game studios and game marketplaces, Valve are golden.

But coming back to your initial displeasment with them, the funny thing is a lot of Steam games don't need Steam to launch. Unless devs implement some hooks and DRMs themselves, you can just launch their EXE file. Nobody really checks that, but that's the truth, and I've seen some lists of games that don't do that. On top of that, 99% offline games can be launched without internet with Steam only, you can even backup and then install some game on your PC offline if your client knows you own it. And don't forget family sharing - although they promised to rework it, I, my partner and our friends used it a lot, and although you can't use a game from a shared library when you are offline, if the owner plays it offline you can play it too at the same time without messing with each others' gameplay. This lazy implementation of DRM with many workarounds and general respect to even the sleakiest, cheating customer is why I still buy games there.

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[-] phuntis@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

sweeney is that you?

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[-] umbrella@lemmy.ml 12 points 2 months ago

🏴‍☠️

[-] spooky2092 12 points 2 months ago

Damn, and I was just about to break my "have never played Alan wake" streak...

[-] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 10 points 2 months ago

Here's the thing about CEOs: they're beholden to a board of people who like money

[-] cupcakezealot 9 points 2 months ago

Laughs in Heroic Launcher

[-] pythonoob@programming.dev 9 points 2 months ago

Guess I'll never get it then.

[-] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 9 points 2 months ago

Damn shame the decision Remedy made to get the funding from Epic looks like it has backfired (since as I understand it AW2 still hasn't turned a profit). I truly hope this doesn't affect their upcoming games as Alan Wake 2 is one of the best gaming experiences I've ever had and I want for nothing more than Remedy to keep doing what they're doing.

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[-] Kaldo@fedia.io 6 points 2 months ago

It's a good game and it wouldn't have been made if it werent for epic games fronting the cost. Step beyond the silly platform tribalism and just enjoy the game that was made with love and vision while supporting the devs and the choices they made. Or dont, w/e, I'm personally glad I got it there since the devs got a bigger cut than they'd get on steam anyway.

[-] cobysev@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

[...] the devs got a bigger cut than they'd get on steam

Inconsequential, considering the game is still not profitable, even after a year. The devs lost money on this game. If it came to Steam, they'd be swimming in cash right now. The cut they get from the store doesn't matter if the game releases on a single store that most people refuse to use.

If Epic Games would be an actual competitor to Steam instead of trying to lock their content behind a paywall and force users to use them over the competition, then people might consider using their service. But as long as they continue to use shitty practices, most people are going to avoid them and use their competition's service.

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[-] SuiXi3D@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

So, what’s the over-under on when it’ll show up on Gamepass?

[-] ControllerCat@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 months ago

This kind of thing happened with "American Nightmare" and "Quantum Break". While I'm not aware of any formal policy that Remedy has, I suspect this happens because they're a smaller shop trying to leverage whatever they can.

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