If Trump gets Luigi'd it will be because of something like this.
Some hardcore Trump voter in California or similar is going to get the shaft and become dangerous. Its only a matter of time... might not even be from a blue state considering how vastly he is fucking everything up.
That's not how it's gonna go. The aid will require a tribute most of which will be batshit insane laws. Want federal aid? Marijuana is criminalized again. Want federal aid? Abortion is illegal in that state. It will be another club used to bludgeon the American public.
Well only for the blue states. Certainly not Florida.
Florida is already ahead on batshit legislature.
Florida is going to get recked every year by hurricanes until we figure out how to remove carbon from the atmosphere.
He almost got Luigi'd, remember. A couple of inches...that was it. Imagine how different it would've been...
The qons act just like comic-book villains. This is demonic stuff.
Oh no, if only California were the fifth largest economy in the world and were already helping fund FireAid, a charity concert for those affected.
Oh wait. Out of all 50 states, California could fund FEMA by itself without raising taxes by any noticable amount.
CEMA?
Cema nuts.
Take my vote you magnificent bastard
If that's the federal governments response to an emergency in their state ..... why would the state want to stay inside the union?
The federal government wants the benefits of the union but they don't want to help you.
People will start thinking of leaving and just work as a country on their own if they're treated like this.
Um. That's what they want.
They want the US to balkanize.
It was going to happen sooner or later, I'm just glad I got out of Texas before it started.
I am fine with California seceding.
Or the entire western seaboard becoming a new Canadian province.
Pretty sure California sends more funds to the federal government than they receive every year... Would be a shame if they just didn't do the back and forth and kept their funds to use as they see for instead.
I'm sure States like Alabama wouldn't miss that California tax revenue making it's way to them at all.
Yes, but to do this individual Californians would all have to stop paying federal income taxes.
No they would need to pay them into bonds to comply with the Spirit of the law but not the letter of the law. When the federal government represents California again the bonds can be released.
Sure, but if individuals don’t pay the IRS, they can do all sort of shit, including garnishing your wages.
They could certainly try but that requires actual enforcement and California has the economic power.
Sure, but they can just target businesses with 668 form to garnish wages of employees, and if businesses don’t comply, they can fuck with the businesses ability to conduct national or international business.
California has its own ports, national guard and most of the United States naval power for that side of the planet. Again they can try, it's all well and good to say on paper but once red states light up in unrest because the government tap shuts off things get real unpredictable real fast.
The national guard is the federal reserve military and Trump can override any governor’s whenever. And given that the armed services tend to swing Republican, having them commit mass insubordination seems unlikely.
You guys are just describing the opening of a civil war. Both of you.
Just to clarify, I’m not arguing in support of CA withholding taxes or trying to obstruct with the guard. I’m arguing that both of those ideas are terrible and riddled with holes. But you’re right, those ideas are also dangerous.
No. The national guard was a compromise to remove militias and this a large part of state autonomy. They are beholden to the state first and the federal government second, the national guard can be called by the president and a governor can refuse the order or recall troops if the order is contrary to "actual service of the United States".
Similarly military forces don't actually swing hard right, they're center right I'll agree there.
Trump would just do what Eisenhower did in the late 50’s - use the Insurrection Act to federalize the Guard.
I’m all for a way to stick it to Trump, but not paying taxes doesn’t have an easy solution. The collection is done per person / household, enforcement can easily be done nationally by garnishing wages, and the guard can’t stop that.
Bro you seen to misunderstand how payroll works.
If I work 8 hrs and get a paycheck that paycheck only has deductions because the payroll software calculated withholding and withheld it.
If I work the same 8hrs and my boss figures withholdings all they have to do it cut me a personal or business check for the correct amount and store the withholding of better yet the employee stores the withholding in bond.
Nothing is magically withheld automatically and teleported to the federal Treasury.
Hmmm. Sounds like if California can't get aid from the federal government, then they will just have to use their own money. I would suggest the comptroller to order all federal tax money in the state sent to Sacramento for use as disaster relief. They can't prosecute 40 million people not paying taxes.
Maybe California should halt exports of goods or services unless Trump delivers wildfire aid
“I want to see two things in Los Angeles: Voter ID so that the people have a chance to vote. And I want to see the water be released and come down into Los Angeles and throughout the state. Those are the two things. After that, I will be the greatest president that California ever has ever seen,” he said
California requires state or federal id when registering to vote and when voting for the first time in person. They recently banned cities and districts from making additional requirements.
Los Angeles primarily gets its water from three main sources: the Owens River, Northern California, and the Colorado River, along with local groundwater. Approximately 57% of the region's water supply is imported, while groundwater accounts for about 34% of the total supply.
As a former los angeleno, I have always been proud of the changes they've made to conserve water in homes and business over the last few decades and I don't believe most people living there expect to receive more water from outside the region as the climate worsens. But then, I don't own any golf courses
California secession starting to look real attractive. Why pay for red state welfare when the feds won't return the favor?
All I'll say is that if somebody shows up at my door asking me to sign a petition to get it on a ballot, they'd get my John Hancock.
Trump Translation: Fuck California.
California Responds: Trump, you're an idiot.
For someone who wants to "expand" American territory, he's doing a pretty good job at motivating states to secede.
Going after the migrant workers in California agriculture is designed to cripple the state's economy.
The raids were only in blue states/cities. Straight-up retribution or attacking the economy of those who voted against him. Not raiding any red state cities is just as telling.
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