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The Unix Way, everybody!

Also, first post!

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[-] renzev@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 5 points 4 hours ago

The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

[-] renzev@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Hmm that's a valid criticism, thanks for pointing it out

[-] a2part2@lemmy.zip 3 points 5 hours ago

Duckdb can query them with SQL like they are in a database. Csv, tsv, parquet also. You can even connect to and query postures and cloud storage also

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

[-] seliaste 3 points 7 hours ago

Sqlite is the best in most cases

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 17 points 17 hours ago

Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 15 points 21 hours ago

They’re more like blob storage.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 4 points 8 hours ago

Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 28 points 1 day ago

git repo is blockchain

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 20 points 1 day ago

You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

[-] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 14 points 1 day ago

As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.

[-] not_IO 8 points 23 hours ago

the anus isnt self lubricating :(

[-] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 10 points 17 hours ago

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function

Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus

It is though...

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 31 points 1 day ago

For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

[-] fnrir@lemmy.world 5 points 14 hours ago

or CSV files

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 9 points 1 day ago

Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"

[-] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 4 hours ago

*starts rocking back and forth in chair

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 34 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

everything is a file including a filesystem*

 

* including databases

[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 54 points 1 day ago

If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

[-] drq@mastodon.ml 44 points 1 day ago
[-] mogoh@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 day ago

How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?

[-] drq@mastodon.ml 40 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

@mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!

The way it's supposed to be!

I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter

@linuxmemes

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 1 day ago

Federation.

Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.

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[-] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 1 day ago
[-] drq@mastodon.ml 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

@30p87 Okay, looks like we *finally* have *actual* groups in Fedi that are compatible across the board.

I've been waiting for this for so long, I've almost given up all hope.

@linuxmemes

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[-] drosophila 10 points 1 day ago

That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

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[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 18 points 1 day ago

And files are streams. 🎵 Islands in the stream. 🎵

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 1 day ago

🎵 That is what we awk 🎵

[-] mugdad1@lemm.ee 9 points 1 day ago

welcome to lemmy im new also

[-] drq@mastodon.ml 6 points 1 day ago
[-] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

wtf how do you mix between lemmy and mastdon i also have account there but i didn't thought that the content will be here also so please explain

[-] drq@mastodon.ml 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

@mugdad1 I don't mix, I'm on Mastodon. I just mentioned @linuxmemes in op-post et voila! Neat, huh?

[-] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 1 day ago

That's what federation is all about.

[-] mugdad1@lemm.ee 5 points 1 day ago

ok tried mentioning my self their it worked i didn"t knew about that yes i wondered how they are mixed sometimes thanks man

[-] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Welcome to the lovely world of the Fediverse! Mastodon and Lemmy, among many other kinds of software, both run on ActivityPub. This means that even if the servers aren't both running Lemmy or Mastodon, they still speak the same language and can therefore understand the content of each other's posts (think of it as email, gmail.com can still send and receive mail to outlook.com). Other examples of AcitvityPub software are Misskey, Mbin, Friendica, Pixelfed, Loops, Piefed, PeerTube and many others that I haven't learned about yet. While they theoretically can all fetch and present posts from each other, due to the choices that each developer makes while designing their software, it might not be very possible to get every post from every software. For example, Mastodon is all about following people, and Lemmy about following communities. Even though Mastodon is able to follow Lemmy communities, Lemmy has (as of writing) no function to follow people (yet).

[-] mugdad1@lemm.ee 2 points 20 hours ago

man i wanna be your frind what an amazing explainition you rock 🥰🥰🥰 i understood everything thanks also i got pixelfiled and mastodon and lemmy and i saw the connection thanks i posted in mastodon can you please go there and see it @mugdad1@mastodon.social

[-] addie@feddit.uk 7 points 1 day ago

Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

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[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago

Honestly that's basically what CephFS is

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[-] foxido@social.cutie.team 7 points 1 day ago
[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

And the worst FAT32

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