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submitted 2 years ago by drq@mastodon.ml to c/linuxmemes@lemmy.world

The Unix Way, everybody!

Also, first post!

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[-] slazer2au@lemmy.world 63 points 2 years ago

If file systems are databases, then does that mean storing a sqlite db on a HDD is database inception?

[-] drq@mastodon.ml 20 points 2 years ago
[-] drq@mastodon.ml 48 points 2 years ago
[-] mogoh@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

How do you post from mastodon to lemmy?

[-] drq@mastodon.ml 45 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@mogoh I just mentioned the group and it worked!

The way it's supposed to be!

I'm so happy for this omfgrotflolcopter

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[-] mogoh@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

wow, that's simple! Thx!

[-] vint@mastodon.ml 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@drq @mogoh

Do you mean just mentioning the group anywhere in the post finally works? Before, I had to mention it on first line. That's some progress.

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[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 2 years ago

Federation.

Wait till you get a comment from threads. I've only had it happen once and it made me feel dirty.

[-] th3rdsergeevich@mastodon.ml 7 points 2 years ago

@mogoh AFAIK, I should mention @linuxmemes handle to make the comment visible inside the original Lemmy thread.
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[-] 30p87@feddit.org 8 points 2 years ago
[-] drq@mastodon.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

@30p87 Okay, looks like we *finally* have *actual* groups in Fedi that are compatible across the board.

I've been waiting for this for so long, I've almost given up all hope.

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[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

everything is a file including a filesystem*

 

* including databases

[-] kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com 34 points 2 years ago

git repo is blockchain

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago

For example, a directory full of spreadsheets.

Somewhere, a sysadmin is pulling his hair out

[-] whoisearth@lemmy.ca 10 points 2 years ago

Tbh still preferred to that asshat who rolls out an MS Access "app"

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[-] fnrir@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

or CSV files

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 years ago

and anuses are vaginas, as long as you treat them as one.

[-] coacoamelky@lemm.ee 18 points 2 years ago

As a man of science I prefer to test every theory.

[-] not_IO 9 points 2 years ago

the anus isnt self lubricating :(

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 14 points 2 years ago

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/body/24784-anus-function

Muscles, nerves and mucous membranes in your anus

It is though...

[-] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 2 years ago

It can be if you're lactose intolerant.

[-] mlg@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago

Didn't someone actually try making SQL as a filesystem and it ended up being something like 50 times slower than ZFS after they applied a ton of optimizations?

Not as a serious project, but more like a joke to see what would actually happen.

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 21 points 2 years ago

You're right! Ill just store all this data as static json files in a directory then

[-] collapse_already@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 years ago

And files are streams. 🎵 Islands in the stream. 🎵

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 11 points 2 years ago

🎵 That is what we awk 🎵

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 years ago

They’re more like blob storage.

[-] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Blob storage usually uses a FS back end so it’s more like blob storage is like a file system

[-] drosophila 10 points 2 years ago

That's less the Unix way and more the BeOS way.

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[-] renzev@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

Just fucking putting data into json files in a folder is so much easier than databases. Sure, databases are faster and give you access to powerful SQL queries. But if you're just making something small and simple, you don't need those things. Save yourself the hassle and just use the filesystem.

Or use minio/s3, which can either be the best or the worst of both worlds depending on your usecase.

[-] twice_hatch@midwest.social 12 points 2 years ago

The trouble is, filesystems don't have ACID. The first time you have a power loss during a write, your data will get corrupted.

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[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

It also makes you re-implement a database, but worse.

Use a JSON file if you just need to serialize/deserialize some data. Use SQLite or a DB server if you need more. Your own code will never match the quality of SQLite.

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[-] foxido@social.cutie.team 9 points 2 years ago
[-] addie@feddit.uk 8 points 2 years ago

Filesystem-as-a-db is why MongoDB is webscale. You just turn it on and it scales right up.

[-] azvasKvklenko@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago

I love how pacman/libalpm database is just directories with tiny little files, and it’s faster in resolving dependencies than mostly anything else

[-] RizzRustbolt@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Every Homestuck fan already knows this.

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[-] th3rdsergeevich@mastodon.ml 5 points 2 years ago

@drq Come on, that can't be your F I R S T post.
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[-] drq@mastodon.ml 9 points 2 years ago

@th3rdsergeevich It is my first op-post on lemmy, that's right.

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[-] Redacted@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

The list of reasons filesystems are not databases is a database.

[-] reddit_sux@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

And the worst FAT32

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

Honestly that's basically what CephFS is

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[-] nialv7@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Behold! I present to you: Database as Filesystem

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