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[-] JusticeForPorygon 191 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I love how certain media call it a Roman Salute in an attempt to defend him.

Like, do they think Hitler just made it up himself?

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 101 points 1 month ago

He stole it from the Italians under Mussolini, who basically took it from a painting. There's no evidence the Romans used this salute, so it's always been associated with fascism.

[-] JusticeForPorygon 30 points 1 month ago

Unfortunately, evidence isn't something these folks are worried about.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 22 points 1 month ago

Their feelings don’t care about facts so to say

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

Even if it was a roman salute, that was a symbol of fascism.

[-] JusticeForPorygon 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That's what I'm saying, it takes literally four seconds to look up where the "Roman" salute came from.

But these kids aren't big on the whole "reading" thing.

[-] Cheems@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Same people that say the swastika is a symbol of peace.

[-] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago
[-] ScoopMcPoops@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Ok, how often do you see Hindus, Buddhists, Nepalese, Indians, Thai, Mongolians, Sri Lankans, Chinese, Japanese, Akans, Hopis, Navajo, and Tlingit peoples spray paint it on walls or get it tattooed on their bodies in AMERICA? This isn't any of those countries you listed. The next time I see someone with a swastika on their neck and a Nazi salute here in America am I supposed to assume it's a peace loving Buddhist with an interest in Roman history?

[-] Princeali311@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago

No, but if you see it from a person or that ethnicity and religious background, you shouldn't assume it's an ode to Hitler.

[-] CanadianCarl@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 month ago

You did not read a single thing I posted. I did not praise Nazism or Hitler. Your lights might be on, but no one is home.

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[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 72 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I for one am absolutely amused that every reputable news source calls it a nazi-style salute, since Elon couldn't even get the salute right, despite his best efforts.

[-] magic_lobster_party@fedia.io 23 points 1 month ago

It looks like the halfway point between a Nazi salute and a dab

Isn't any salute Musk does a nazi salute?

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[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 50 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Isnt this the wrong community? This is not an onion or onion like article... I know Chaser usually does that, but there are no jokes or lies in there really are there? All those quotes have been said/written by someone.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

Yeah, that's what nottheonion is for.

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 45 points 1 month ago

It's really not clear that he isn't just pointing at something/acknowledging someone with his thumb and the rest of his fingers violently

[-] haulyard@lemmy.world 64 points 1 month ago

And when he turned around and pointed violently at the flag in the same style? Does that make it more clear?

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 25 points 1 month ago

It wasn't completely clear that my comment was pure sarcasm? Seriously?

[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago

That's been the conservative line all day. Repeating a partisan lie word for word is not sarcasm.

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Nobody conservative was defending this by saying he was pointing his thumb and the rest of his fingers violently at someone

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 24 points 1 month ago

I've found online that /s is almost always needed. May take a bit from the joke but also, clarifies for everyone that you are not actually being an asshole when you can't visibly roll your eyes and use the proper "sarcasm inflection"

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I've found that people who can't detect obvious sarcasm are probably not worth the effort of explaining it

[-] DashboTreeFrog@discuss.online 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fair. I've spent most my life working with the neurodivergent community, so even IRL I know some very intelligent people need a bit of help with implied meaning. I know I've had my fair share of "woosh" moments

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[-] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Tbh one of the things that makes detecting sarcasm vs actually just defending him hard is that normally you can use prior knowledge of a persons opinions to help, but here I have no clue who you are and what your positions are and you might just be a random Nazi.

If you really don't like just having the /s there, one options is to include a spoiler and put the /s in there a few lines down.

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

Actually no. Maybe include /s or something?

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

Who "points their thumb" at someone "violently"? What reality is this

[-] VubDapple@lemmy.world 24 points 1 month ago

Assuming you're operating in good faith, just take the feedback and try to learn from it.

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Lol. This is a community about satire, right?

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago

I mean, to be fair to you, I thought it was pretty clearly satire

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[-] dmention7@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago

Lmao sorry you're getting downvoted dude. How anyone took this comment, in this community, seriously... is beyond me!

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago
[-] JudahBenHur@lemm.ee 12 points 1 month ago

you really have to write a /s for a lot of these folks to not take everything at face value here it would appear :-/

[-] Default_Defect@midwest.social 11 points 1 month ago

Might be because people are actually making this argument in defense of musk

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

Eh, the richest and arguably most powerful man on the planet just did a Nazi salute, twice, on live TV. I think it's understandable that some of our nerves are a bit frayed when it comes to sarcasm/jokes about the subject.

[-] aaron@lemm.ee 5 points 1 month ago

Subtle sarcasm is really hard for a lot of people who comment in a community focused on satire, ironically.

[-] skulblaka@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

The internet is a different place than it used to be. These days every third person you see might tell you the California fires are caused by having too many black folks in the movies and be completely sure of themselves that this is a fact. It is no longer safe to assume sarcasm when you see someone say something ridiculous.

And if you just laugh and agree with it (sarcastically) or ignore it, then you're going to get new people seeing this for the first time, not getting that it's sarcasm, seeing it get agreed with or at least not refuted, and now you have two people that believe this mess. Rinse and repeat. 4chan is basically a case study for this sort of thing.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Just throwing this in here, looks like he's pointing at something?

[-] __nobodynowhere@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago
[-] aaron@lemm.ee 16 points 1 month ago

He's obviously grabbing his love from his heart and throwing it out to all of his supporters. I don't know how else you could possibly interpret this.

[-] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Now that comment felt sarcastic enough to me to need the /s. I'm still betting someone will take it seriously.

[-] Soup@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Oh wow, that’s even worse than I had guessed. He looks…well exactly like himself, which is to say an over-grown child who thinks being hated for being a nazi is “being a rebel”.

Incredible.

[-] DicJacobus@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

What the fuck even is this timeline.

My estranged uncle, who was a diehard trump supporter (I think he did it because he believed the system needed to be burned down, and he thought that somehow the dems were corrupt and that the republicans weren't)

that same uncle, Moved to Texas because its where Elon went, he idolized Elon, (I should add at this point, my uncle is a fucking CANADIAN WITH A GREEN CARD. NOT A CITIZEN) that same uncle who when he was a teenager, Identified as a NATIONALIST SOCIALIST... He idolozed Elon. and then all of a sudden one day, he told the rest of the family that would still listen to him, that he'd 180'd and isn't following Elon anymore, because Elon is "evil"

the mental gymnastics and thought process is literally giving me hyper brain aids.

and this is my own flesh and blood.

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[-] N0body@lemmy.dbzer0.com 28 points 1 month ago

In their defense, the party said its most important action item on the talking points memo was not to trust your eyes or your ears any longer.

[-] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 25 points 1 month ago

This is barely even satire at this point

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

the president:

the media:

[-] Zier@fedia.io 16 points 1 month ago

Just an FYI, the real meaning of that salute is the statement, "I'm a kunt!"

[-] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

This was the image I was thinking of when I first saw him do the thing

[-] Irelephant@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago
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