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Biden administration to urge Americans get new COVID-19 boosters (www.reuters.com)
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The Biden administration plans to urge all Americans to get a booster shot for the coronavirus this autumn to counter a new wave of infections, a White House official said on Sunday.

The official said that while the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention are reporting an increase in infections and hospital admissions from the virus, overall levels remain low.

On Thursday, Moderna (MRNA.O) said initial data showed its updated COVID-19 vaccine is effective against the "Eris" and "Fornax" subvariants in humans.

Moderna and other COVID-19 vaccine makers Novavax (NVAX.O), Pfizer (PFE.N) and German partner BioNTech SE (22UAy.DE) have created versions of their shots aimed at the XBB.1.5 subvariant.

Pending approval from health regulators in the United States and Europe, the companies expect the updated shots to be available in the coming weeks for the autumn vaccination season.

"We will be encouraging all Americans to get those boosters in addition to flu shots and RSV shots," the official said, referring to the Respiratory Syncytial Virus.

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[-] scytale@lemm.ee 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I wonder if the new boosters will be given out for "free" (in quotes because it's taxpayers money blah blah, for the pedantic people)? I definitely want a booster since it's been more than a year(?) since the last one, and it would be great if they gave it out without additional charge.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

I had a whole thing with my pharmacy about this. They kept on asking for insurance and social security numbers. Me repeatedly pointing out that the vaccine is free and open to everyone living in the US regardless of status.

I swear they can't help themselves. They are so used to these fucking games.

[-] krakenx@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

The government only covers it for those who don't have insurance. It's free to you either way, but at the end of the day someone still gets the bill.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Is that true even now that we are out of the state of emergency?

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[-] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

My grandma just got COVID. It's convinced me to get more boosters.

[-] Fades@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I tried to get another booster for this year and my doctor said I can’t because I’ve already had the boosters. I was like yeah last fucking year but he told me to fuck off.

So until this shit gets down to the docs and pharmacies, you may not have much success unless you are older or immunocompromised

[-] Ranman@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 8 months ago)
[-] PagingDoctorLove@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I didn't even know there WAS a new booster. God, will we ever escape this mess?

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[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

Your doctor sounds like a fucking moron.

However, at this point wait until the new one next month.

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[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They should already know. Flu vaccines get updated every year, and we've known COVID immunity falls off fairly rapidly regardless. People were going only 3-6 months between infections in the initial outbreak. I don't know what the longevity of the COVID vaccines are but it doesn't seem great, even ignoring that you need updates for new mutations.

Now, maybe his supply of vaccine doesn't protect against the latest strains, but if that was the case I'd expect him to have mentioned that, because it isn't the overall supply either since some places are throwing them away.

There's always the chance your doctor is just an idiot.

After all, do you know what you call the bottom 10% of a medical school graduating class?

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[-] RagnarokOnline@reddthat.com 23 points 1 year ago

I feel like I’m only just recently hearing about “RSV” (Like within the last 9 months).

Is that a new thing or do I just live under a rock?

[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Babies always got it. But this is the first time I've really seen it be a concern for adults

I got it in December and holllly shit. Covid would have been better, supposedly. My parents got covid and they weren't out of it very long but this thing kicked the shit out of them for 2 weeks

I got it a couple weeks later and I've never been so wiped the hell out for 10 straight days. And a couple more weeks to recover

After seeing how people fared with covid and seeing what I went through with RSV, I'll take as many RSV vaccines as I'm allowed to take for the rest of my life

[-] MagicShel@programming.dev 6 points 1 year ago

It was explained to me that RSV is a concern for adults more because they transmit it to young children who are at much greater risk from it. Most adults who get it don't even know it from another routine illness (sounds like your parents were an exception). I'm not a doctor, this is just how it was explained to me.

[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

Yes that's typically what's happened but this year was a rough ass ride

[-] SuzyQ@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

I didn't know it was a thing until my second child got it in 2012. He had recently turned 1, so it wasn't as bad as it could have been (baby danger is for those 1 and younger). It took a while, but it cleared up. He was put on an emergency inhaler to help with the symptoms. I'm convinced that the RSV infection plus the fact that he was a small child (25th percentile for height and weight, but otherwise healthy) contributed to him developing asthma. His asthma doctor told me that is a very real possibility (there's no way to know for certain). He's gotten better as he's gotten older, but I'm forever on edge with new respiratory infections.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

~~It's not a new thing, but I think the shots were mainly given to kids in the past.~~ But the symptoms can mimic Covid, so I think they have started advising more adults to get the shots.

RSV isn't a new thing, but the vaccine apparently is. See the reply. Below

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 12 points 1 year ago

With the uptick of infections in the UK and other areas, I knew this recommendation was coming. And since it’s not “free” anymore big pharma is going to take in the money on this cash cow.

I can’t take the vaccine, unless I wanna die, so please don’t think I’m an anti-vaxxer.

TBF I’ve had Covid twice, it wasn’t fun, but it only lasted in me for like 3-4 days. I’m one of the lucky ones that didn’t end up in the hospital. Doctor told me to take vitamin c and zinc which I think helped reduce the infection time.

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 year ago

What's the actual reason you can't get the mRNA vaccine? Are you allergic to a certain chemical in them?

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 year ago

The risk for heart attack due to one of the chemicals in them. I have had 2 heart attacks in 2021, one I actually died on the table for 2 minutes, twice. my cardiologist said if I took the mRNA vaccine it would kill me. So here I am. I have no problem with people taking the vaccine or not, their body their choice. But, IMHO, if they really put the time into it, they could program the vaccines to literally kill the virus instead of just making the symptoms lighter. WE have the tech, the problem is big pharma knows if they actually did the right thing they would lose money.

Ain't capitalism great? Don't make a cure, just make a band-aide so you can make more money.

[-] Vlyn@lemmy.zip 32 points 1 year ago

That's not how vaccines work. You don't "program" them. For example the Covid mRNA vaccine is only in your body for literally days (at most). At max a week later it's fully gone, no more trace of the actual vaccine.

It just tricks your own cells into creating harmless proteins that look similar to the actual virus, so your anti-bodies learn how to attach to them and eliminate them. They learn, they reproduce and remember. When the actual virus gets into your body your body just goes "Ah, I know that stuff already, I know what to do." instead of not even realizing there's a virus at first and then frantically trying to find a solution to the intruder (which is based on random chance pretty much, if your body is too slow the virus has too much time to spread, either fucking you up or even killing you if your immune system isn't up to speed).

This video is really cool in regards to that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LmpuerlbJu0

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 year ago

i was using the term program for lack of a better way to put it. I will watch the video though, I'm always interested in learning new things

[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 23 points 1 year ago

No offence intended. But if a chemical could kill me in a microscopic dose I'd probably want to share the name of said chemical. Which chemical will kill you? And how much of it is in a typical vaccination?

Or are you just taking us for a story-telling ride?

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 year ago

No story, honestly I don’t remember the name of it, I’ve had so much going on in the last couple years I’m lucky to remember it my birthday today.

I don’t think it’s one in the typical vaccinations since I can take the flu shot with no problems as well as my pneumonia shot very 5 years.

One thing I don’t do is tell fables, I’m not the Bible after all.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

No, you just keep leaving out key details while fear mongering.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Listen so I believe that you believe you heard something, and I fully get your paranoia. It can't be fun going thru what you went thru. Would you be against the idea of your cardiologist putting their recommendation in writing? Explicitly saying "if you get the vaccine you will die from it because of such and such chemical". It really shouldn't take that long and let's say somehow someway your doc misspoke or you misheard it, even if it is a 1 in a billion chance, wouldn't it be better to be sure?

No, I don't expect you to share this with me or anyone else. Just have it for your own good.

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

I agree with you but after my second heart attack, he passed away from one. How’s that for irony?

Anyway I’m not really worried about it. The doctors don’t ask about them anymore anyway.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

I see. Do you have a new cardiologist assigned to you? Can he/she review the medical notes from the previous one?

Again, I do believe you believe what you are saying.

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[-] cheeseybacon@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Why not just get one of the non-mRNA covid vaccines?

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 year ago

At this point I figure why bother? Covid isn’t going to go away. It’s a part of life now. Also like I said I’ve had it twice and it wasn’t debilitating to me. To me, I feel like it isn’t worth the cost to my insurance provider.

This is strictly my call. Besides it’s not like it’s going away just because I take the vaccine. Not to mention the possibility they accidentally administer the wrong one. Not saying this will happen, but nobody is infallible.

[-] Zink@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

Covid not going away is a reason to get the booster, not avoid it.

But in your specific case, with your previous reactions, definitely do what makes sense for you.

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[-] artvandelay@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is the power of propoganda. You can tell someone you literally died and they'll still tell you do it again. I'm sorry you had to go thru that and hope you never have to again.

[-] ashok36@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

No one is telling him to do it again. We are just wondering what connection there is between having heart attacks and the vaccines. There's a slight risk of myocarditis from the vaccine (many vaccines have the same risk). It seems a bit of a stretch to recommend against the vaccine even then though. The risk of myocarditis is much higher when infected VS vaccinated. OP is rolling the dice that they will never get infected which... Is possible but I wouldn't bet on it.

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[-] AlexWIWA@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago

Is this gonna become a yearly thing?

[-] evatronic@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago

When we failed to take the initial spread seriously and let the thing turn endemic, yes. Yes it will. Much like the flu.

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Failing implies an attempt. The government deliberately chose to lift restrictions prematurely, knowing it would result in the deaths of millions of people, just to make billionaires richer.

[-] APassenger@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

While I agree with your assertion that it was done for financial reasons, it was already endemic by the time the world noticed.

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[-] EssentialCoffee@midwest.social 7 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they said a couple years ago, they were expecting it to have a yearly booster, same as the flu.

[-] dudewitbow@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Likely, but keep in mind, generally overtime, viruses become less* lethal as its the non lethal ones that survive to spread(as lethal ones kill host, and killing the host is detrimental for the spread of a virus)

Dudewitbow

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

While that is normally true, covid spreads before symptoms show. So it doesn't select as well for non-lethality since lethal variants have plenty of time to spread before it kills the host.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Not really. Most viruses get weaker as they mutate. It only makes it easier for the virus to survive and thrive if it is less destructive to its host.

If viruses got more violent we’d all had died from the common cold a long time ago.

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