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submitted 6 months ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/politics@lemmy.world

Summary

Utah has introduced strict guidelines for transgender girls in high school sports, requiring testosterone levels below 66 ng/dl—far stricter than NCAA or Olympic standards—and proof of ongoing gender-affirming care, which was banned in the state in 2023.

Critics argue the rules effectively bar all transgender girls from participating, contradicting the law’s intent to only ban cases of safety or competitive advantage.

Advocates warn the policy harms trans youth by excluding them from the mental health and social benefits of sports.

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[-] WeUnite@lemm.ee 140 points 6 months ago

And this will lower my grocery prices how?

[-] HikingVet@lemmy.sdf.org 87 points 6 months ago

I wonder how many cis gendered girls are going to get dinged.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 72 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

If it hurts cis women as well as trans people, Republicans will consider it a bonus.

[-] BestBouclettes@jlai.lu 18 points 6 months ago

They'll happily eat a shit sandwich as long as you have to smell it

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 42 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Very many I'll bet. The medically accepted "normal" range for free T in women is 15 to 70 ng/dl (quick and dirty google), so 66 is already inside of that. And thats not counting the huge swath of women with pcos/endo/etc disorders that tend to result in higher T as well.

[-] Frozengyro@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Not sure how T works in women, but men who workout and are physically active also produce more. If it's similar that will put more in the top end of that range.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

I can also guarantee some testing company owned by a Republican is now salivating at the idea of testing every girl. Lobbying probably won't even be hard, just say "secret trans" and Republicans will be chomping at the bit to pass that law.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

More than trans girls for certain. Just like every law against trans girls

[-] RoidingOldMan@lemmy.world 56 points 6 months ago

So frustrating that I've lived long enough that we are passing laws with the specific purpose of excluding one minor group of people.

[-] cannibalkitteh 41 points 6 months ago

While these laws are expressly exclusionary, the overall intent is to erode civil rights protections. It's easier for them to argue against civil rights when they can present a legal justification for it.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Well, we can thank the qons for always focusing on things that affect everyday Americans.

What will this do for the price of eggs, I wonder?

[-] pufferfischerpulver@feddit.org 5 points 6 months ago

Well, well, well, now you think of the eggs. Real Women just have 'em free you know. /s

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

At least there’s a way for them to compete in the sports of their gender. In many red states, it’s just banned with no thought of doing this. I wish it wasn’t more strict than the NCAA, but at least it’s better than other red states.

[-] AllHailTheSheep@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago

there's not tho. they need to meet unrealistic testosterone standards, and they need proof of care they can't get.

[-] flames5123@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Oh yea, definitely. But they could get that number changed. At least it’s not a blanket ban. It’s les than 1/4 the NCAA number.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

I could see some company cashing in on this and saying you need to test all girls for secret trans... and then I picking up girls with PCOS and other disorders that change testosterone levels.

[-] FolknForage@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

FWIW - IMO all athletes should be subject to controls, and meet certain testosterone levels depending on their class, not just trans.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

Do you have any idea just how expensive it would be to do testing on every athlete?

There were 7.8 million student athletes in the US last year and the average cost of a testosterone test is 70 - 100 bucks. Even using conservative estimations, you'd need to spend half a BILLION dollars PER YEAR to accomplish this. And the worst part? Do you know how many of those 7.8 million were trans students? Five.

Not Five thousand. Not Fifty. Five.

You are being distracted and lied to.

[-] FolknForage@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago

I am not saying we should, but if apparently it needs to be done, we should rethink categories and classes more broadly, not in “boys” or “girls” terms.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Why? 90% of high level athletics is genetics. Basically all your top athletes started out with a massive advantage over the general public. That is why Olympic gold and 4th+ place can be separated by a fraction of a second because everyone is amazing.

If we are banning girls with high T shall we also ban the tall ones too?

[-] spujb@lemmy.cafe 1 points 6 months ago

Wait can you rephrase or cite another voice on what you are saying here. You come off as a reactionary conservative here but your below comments suggest to me you are actually a lot more normal and you just wrote your thoughts in a way that confused people so they downvoted. /gen

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