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The fall of an empire (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[-] dx1@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Normally hate political memes in this kind of tone and format. The bland "Occupy Democrats" type ones, you know. Can't really find fault in this one though.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

To be fair a casual understanding of history shows they're practicing Christianity as it always has been

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 6 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I love that Gladiator, the 2000 film, showed us Commodus a rich emperor who was insanely obsessed with getting everyone's attention and the US has Elon Musk showing everyone that he wants to be at least knows as the best digital gladiator of video games while we have Nero/Trump watching the city burn.

It is like we are working on The Decline of an Empire: Greatest Hits! double gate fold album for 2025.

[-] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 2 hours ago

Well, hopefully you can avoid Poilievre. Otherwise, you might be joining us on the crazy train.

[-] djsoren19 15 points 4 hours ago

Don't worry, it's obvious from the inside too.

[-] frostysauce@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

As goes America so soon shall go Canada.

[-] Snowclone@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

I can't understand why there isn't a large group of people with marshmallows hanging out in DC. It's just. What does it take?

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 38 points 12 hours ago

It took centuries for the Roman Republic to fall. At some point in time, they were past the point of no return without themselves even realizing it.

I think we are in that position now. We have been on the decline for more than a decade now, and have had several opportunities to correct or reverse course, but the wrong decision is made at every opportunity because it's far easier for powerful influential people to increase their power, wealth and status at the expense of everyone else and suffer no consequences for doing so than it is for them to sacrifice their own power, wealth, and status for the benefit of the collective. Are we past the point of no return? I'd say an argument could be made for either yes or no, but we are undeniably closer to the precipice than we have ever been as a nation since the Civil War (which never truly ended).

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 5 points 3 hours ago

Nah we're at the part when Rome when from Republic to dictatorship

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 8 points 9 hours ago

This sums up how it feels to me as well. To me it was pretty much the eighties with deregulation and lowering taxes and globalization.

[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 18 points 11 hours ago

The average life of an Empire is about 250 years. It's just about time.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 84 points 19 hours ago

The American people voted a traitor into power that actively works for a hostile foreign power to destroy their country. And yet they can themselves patriots. Pathetic.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 17 points 12 hours ago

That traitor is capitalism. And until people stop supporting that trader it will only further degrade

[-] TimboSlice@discuss.online 21 points 15 hours ago

Well, I didn't vote for that bag of shit

[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 20 points 15 hours ago

Not enough people voted, period.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 90 points 20 hours ago

Plus, they still have slavery! In the constitution it says slavery is not allowed, "except when incarcerated". There are states where incarcerated people, convicted by a corrupt justiciary system, are forced to work without pay.

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

[-] Deway@lemmy.world 18 points 14 hours ago

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

To be fair some are looking for ideas, the Americans are not the only ones with issues.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

But they are one of the most influential in the world, and THE most influential ally we have.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 8 points 12 hours ago

We have slavery in our everyday lives without being incarcerated, we are debt slaves, we are wage slaves without freedom of movement.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

Oh sure, but we do that with every President. Trump's a Putin Puppet. The Clintons Shill for China. Biden bent backwards for Israel. They're all deeply in the bag for the Saudis.

That's before you get to Musk or Gates or Bob Iger or David Solomon absolutely leading our national leadership around by the nose

The world isn’t just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

They've been watching since Nixon. But they still keep cashing our checks, so they can't be that upset.

Guys like Starmer and Truduea and Shultz were lining up to kiss the ring as soon as the election results came in.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 12 points 18 hours ago

They've been watching since Nixon. But they still keep cashing our checks, so they can't be that upset.

It's the other way around. The US national debt is more than it's GDP. Where do you think they borrow that money from. We just don't want the US as an enemy because we want our money back. And so far the US has been the only country fucked up enough to drop not just one, but 2 nukes, not to wipe out military targets but 2 entire cities.

[-] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 8 points 15 hours ago

The large majority (73.1%) of US debt is owned domestically. US foreign debt is well, well below GDP: https://usafacts.org/articles/which-countries-own-the-most-us-debt/

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

26.9% still is a lot of money.

[-] Septimaeus@infosec.pub 1 points 1 hour ago

I didn’t know the fact above. Assumed more. But for a familiar scale that’s like a $13,000 auto loan of an average income household.

That means the big scary national debt could be paid off fairly quickly with only a marginally higher tax burden to the biggest corporations. We may need to do that if, for example, a bunch of political grifters wreck our credit.

[-] Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Not to wipe out military targets but 2 entire cites.

We call that “for funsies” in the States. You ever hear of the Amchitka Island Nuclear Tests? Those seals had it coming!! /s

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 13 hours ago

Anything for profit.

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 49 points 20 hours ago

It's not just the US, but they are the fastest on this path

[-] BendingHawk@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

If you ain't first you're last! - America taking its notes from Ricky Bobby

[-] Deway@lemmy.world 4 points 14 hours ago

Other are looking and taking notes of what works and what doesn't.

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[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

And I'm here with my bag of popcorn enjoying watching it fall

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 9 hours ago

I am so not.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 17 hours ago

civilized

your colonialism is showing.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 19 points 17 hours ago

They’re asking if a civilized country would deny healthcare. They’re not calling themselves civilized other than they have healthcare and the US does not.

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[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 5 points 17 hours ago

It's not the laopards. Its they themselves who cut off their noses to spite their own faces. Bcos Gaza. Lofl.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 17 hours ago

Guess you’re fine with genocide so long as your team gets to win the capitalist Olympics

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

I guess you're fine with genocide as long as it's the goal of the side you support. I call that hypocrisy.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

Uh what? No, I’m not ok with genocide which is why I refused to vote for the democrats who are fully responsible for it.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Right. And I'm sure you're happy with the results. You let this one issue keep you from preventing an insurrectionist rapist convicted felon in to the highest office in the land. The fact that you're American and allowed this to happen is exactly what I meant in my original comment.

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 8 points 14 hours ago

They chose to make Gaza worse but also make the county worse because the alternative wasn't as good as they would have preferred

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Gaza worse? Biden already set the bar in hell. Supposedly a cease fire is in the works, and if so and Israel abides by it (the latter unlikely) liberals can go fuck themselves for eternity for constantly refusing to listen to the left. It’s liberals fault they’d rather lose to fascists than embrace any leftist positions. I for one will never ever vote democrat again country be damned.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

That ceasefire is all smoke and mirrors. If tiktok does end up getting banned, the moment they go dark is when that ceasefire will come to an end.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 8 hours ago

Tik tok is not the only media stop being ridiculous. As for the ceasefire we’ll see it’s already better than biden.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Tiktok was the only media exposing it for what it was. All other forms of media including the government is in genocide denial while supporting zionists and their slaughter of Palestinians

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

I’m not on tik tok and I’m fully aware. I’ve been aware for a long time even before the most recent situation. Gen z and the oldest alphas needs media literacy if they think tik tok is the only source of information out there.

[-] ebolapie@lemmy.world 2 points 13 hours ago

Well now they'll definitely listen to you.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 13 hours ago

The democrats represent their donors, not the working class. They never listened in the first place why start now?

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