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The fall of an empire (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 20 points 4 hours ago

It took centuries for the Roman Republic to fall. At some point in time, they were past the point of no return without themselves even realizing it.

I think we are in that position now. We have been on the decline for more than a decade now, and have had several opportunities to correct or reverse course, but the wrong decision is made at every opportunity because it's far easier for powerful influential people to increase their power, wealth and status at the expense of everyone else and suffer no consequences for doing so than it is for them to sacrifice their own power, wealth, and status for the benefit of the collective. Are we past the point of no return? I'd say an argument could be made for either yes or no, but we are undeniably closer to the precipice than we have ever been as a nation since the Civil War (which never truly ended).

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

This sums up how it feels to me as well. To me it was pretty much the eighties with deregulation and lowering taxes and globalization.

[-] Vaggumon@lemm.ee 8 points 3 hours ago

The average life of an Empire is about 250 years. It's just about time.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

And I'm here with my bag of popcorn enjoying watching it fall

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

I am so not.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 4 points 5 hours ago

Anything for profit.

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 72 points 12 hours ago

The American people voted a traitor into power that actively works for a hostile foreign power to destroy their country. And yet they can themselves patriots. Pathetic.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 9 points 5 hours ago

That traitor is capitalism. And until people stop supporting that trader it will only further degrade

[-] TimboSlice@discuss.online 17 points 7 hours ago

Well, I didn't vote for that bag of shit

[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 14 points 7 hours ago

Not enough people voted, period.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 75 points 12 hours ago

Plus, they still have slavery! In the constitution it says slavery is not allowed, "except when incarcerated". There are states where incarcerated people, convicted by a corrupt justiciary system, are forced to work without pay.

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

We have slavery in our everyday lives without being incarcerated, we are debt slaves, we are wage slaves without freedom of movement.

[-] Deway@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago

The world isn't just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

To be fair some are looking for ideas, the Americans are not the only ones with issues.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 4 points 6 hours ago

But they are one of the most influential in the world, and THE most influential ally we have.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 15 points 12 hours ago

Plus, they just elected an autocratic hate and fear spreading idiot who is a puppet of Putin and does everything in his power to make the US an even worse oligarchy.

Oh sure, but we do that with every President. Trump's a Putin Puppet. The Clintons Shill for China. Biden bent backwards for Israel. They're all deeply in the bag for the Saudis.

That's before you get to Musk or Gates or Bob Iger or David Solomon absolutely leading our national leadership around by the nose

The world isn’t just watching, the world is watching in extreme horror and disgust.

They've been watching since Nixon. But they still keep cashing our checks, so they can't be that upset.

Guys like Starmer and Truduea and Shultz were lining up to kiss the ring as soon as the election results came in.

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 10 points 11 hours ago

They've been watching since Nixon. But they still keep cashing our checks, so they can't be that upset.

It's the other way around. The US national debt is more than it's GDP. Where do you think they borrow that money from. We just don't want the US as an enemy because we want our money back. And so far the US has been the only country fucked up enough to drop not just one, but 2 nukes, not to wipe out military targets but 2 entire cities.

[-] canihasaccount@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

The large majority (73.1%) of US debt is owned domestically. US foreign debt is well, well below GDP: https://usafacts.org/articles/which-countries-own-the-most-us-debt/

[-] LordWiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

26.9% still is a lot of money.

[-] Sammy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

Not to wipe out military targets but 2 entire cites.

We call that “for funsies” in the States. You ever hear of the Amchitka Island Nuclear Tests? Those seals had it coming!! /s

[-] tja@sh.itjust.works 43 points 12 hours ago

It's not just the US, but they are the fastest on this path

[-] BendingHawk@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

If you ain't first you're last! - America taking its notes from Ricky Bobby

[-] Deway@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

Other are looking and taking notes of what works and what doesn't.

[-] SouthEndSunset@lemm.ee 7 points 12 hours ago

Bigly.

[-] Lemminary@lemmy.world 4 points 10 hours ago

It's a yuge problem!

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 hours ago

civilized

your colonialism is showing.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 9 hours ago

They’re asking if a civilized country would deny healthcare. They’re not calling themselves civilized other than they have healthcare and the US does not.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

it's deeply embedded colonialism, and you are making excuses for it. they could have said compassionate or made some appeal to practicality. "civilized" is practically a synonym for white, which is to say a way to distinguish the colonizers from the savages.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 9 hours ago

You just sound triggered and looking to be mad about something.

Both countries are products of colonialism and despite knowing the history of both and all of the horrors, Canada is looking a hell of a lot more civilized in 2025 than America. Does Canada have legalized slavery as a form of punishment?

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago

You just sound triggered

you sound like a racist chud

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Ah yes, a racist chud bringing up the thirteenth amendment legalizing slavery as punishment as one of Americas shining accomplishments. /s

Get fucked, troll.

Blocked.

[-] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 9 hours ago

Blocked

oh thank God

[-] nevaseerius@sh.itjust.works 3 points 9 hours ago

Tldr

[-] minibyte@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago

The Canucks are pissed.

[-] JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world 3 points 9 hours ago

It's not the laopards. Its they themselves who cut off their noses to spite their own faces. Bcos Gaza. Lofl.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 9 hours ago

Guess you’re fine with genocide so long as your team gets to win the capitalist Olympics

[-] Soulg@sh.itjust.works 6 points 7 hours ago

They chose to make Gaza worse but also make the county worse because the alternative wasn't as good as they would have preferred

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Gaza worse? Biden already set the bar in hell. Supposedly a cease fire is in the works, and if so and Israel abides by it (the latter unlikely) liberals can go fuck themselves for eternity for constantly refusing to listen to the left. It’s liberals fault they’d rather lose to fascists than embrace any leftist positions. I for one will never ever vote democrat again country be damned.

[-] ebolapie@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Well now they'll definitely listen to you.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 5 hours ago

The democrats represent their donors, not the working class. They never listened in the first place why start now?

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago

That ceasefire is all smoke and mirrors. If tiktok does end up getting banned, the moment they go dark is when that ceasefire will come to an end.

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 41 minutes ago

Tik tok is not the only media stop being ridiculous. As for the ceasefire we’ll see it’s already better than biden.

[-] K1nsey6@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

Tiktok was the only media exposing it for what it was. All other forms of media including the government is in genocide denial while supporting zionists and their slaughter of Palestinians

[-] jewbacca117@lemmy.world 9 points 12 hours ago

you accepting refugees yet?

[-] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 9 hours ago

It’s not like there would be any housing available for us if they did

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 10 points 12 hours ago

Accepting? They gave Yaroslav Hunka a standing ovation in parliament.

Canada loves refugees of the correct political persuasion.

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