The only winners in this scenario are governments that want more control over their citizens' digital lives.
And that, as the saying goes, is not a bug. It's a feature.
Man I wish European governments would take more control of our digital town squares that are entirely owned and handled by foreign corporations who seek to erode democracy.
What happens when Americans start posting about Hong Kong not being a part of China?
You mean mainland Taiwan? Never heard of this China.
You know the official name of Taiwan's government is The Republic of China right?
Yeah, that's where the previous Chinese leaders fled when the communists took over...
That's the joke yes. Among others here. 😆
Their account gets banned.
Same as any mention of Tienamen Square and anything else the Chinese Government deems unacceptable.
The same as already happens on lemmy.ml 😂
Really? Let me try.
Hong Kong isn't part of China. Taiwan is an independent country.
Edit: oh, this community is in lemmy.world, not lemmy.ml. Still, for those disgruntled, report me for rule 2 & 6. I want to see how mods respond to this.
Tibet is completely forgotten 😢
Tibet was CIA propaganda. The Dalai Lama org was directly paid by the CIA
let's assume that statement is true, let's take the words of an anonymous internaut for truth :
CIA paid Taliban too, i remember reading. Does that make Taliban too just propaganda?
U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can't invalidate the cause.
Like, on the contrary, U.S. sponsorship can't validate a cause either.
i remember unsubscribing from political communities, why the heck am i responding to this comment at this hour. Completely futile! Will it change your mind? Do i really care what you will think about Tibet tomorrow?
Tibet was today's Uyghurs. its US Sinophobic propaganda.
U.S. sponsored and sponsors many movements around the globe as long as their goals align. That money alone can’t invalidate the cause.
USSC declares money is speech. You not only agree, but go further that money is truth. Naziism and Islamist fascism is truth. Democracy, and political power, is much cheaper in smaller countries made less stable with US extortion and war. Navalny caught on video soliciting MI6 for funding to destabilize Russia. Hong Kong media mogul fomenting protests because of Americas values.
The US empire's values are extortion, control, puppetry, and war whitewashed/described with a facade of liberal freedom. Every country is to be a pawn for the empire to the detriment of their population. The political establishment's disdain for Americans provides no valid expectation for the empire to promote humanism elsewhere. Just propaganda.
Yes. However we can agree that all colonialism and imperialism is bad regardless of political structure in power.
That doesn't make them propaganda. Tibet exists, I've been there. I have friends living there. The CIA paid for places to put listening equipment along China's border. They did it in Cuba too. Is Castro propaganda?
You also deny that the Uyghurs are being disappeared and "reeducated". The Uyghurs are being treated just like the First Nations people in America were. Their land and customs stand in the way of Chinese "progress"
Are you paid by China? Or are you just a useful idiot?
He's a useful idiot who hates one thing so much that he will ignore any and all good things bad about that thing, and will ignore any and all bad things about something that isn't that thing.
Yeah, shorthand for this is Tankie
The reeducated thing is sinophobic propaganda bullshit.
I agree, that's why it's in quotes. In reality they're being put in camps on the border and hidden away from the media.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xinjiang_internment_camps
Pinyin link below
http://www.xinhuanet.com/politics/2019-03/18/c_1124247196.htm
https://lemmy.world/modlog/873048?page=1&modId=107790
Whoah. You're ruining /c/latestagecapitalism.....why aren't you letting other leftists in the space?
Tibet emerged as one of countless warlord states in the chaos following the fall of the Qing, it never received international recognition and is recognized as part of China and claimed by the ROC (Taiwan). In the period when it was autonomous, it was ruled by a slaveowning theocracy with an average life expectancy in the 30's. Whipping, mutilation, and amputation were common punishments and poverty and starvation were rampant, with people frequently having to sell their kids for food. The monks and lamas, meanwhile, lived on the backs of the people in extravagant mansions with thousands of servants.
"Free Tibet" is essentially just "The South Will Rise Again" with extra steps.
If someone claims something happened on the fediverse without providing a link, they’re lying.
I am requesting that link in lieu of an image macro
For the record, that line is more in reference to people talking about things that allegedly happened on the fediverse, like, "I saw such and such user say X."
Here is a detailed account of what Tibet was like with sources. If there's a specific claim that you'd like me to clarify or back up, I'd be happy to.
The slavery enjoyers are not happy with me, it seems. If only downvotes had the power to change historical facts.
极其滑稽的
The same as when Americans posted about the gaza genocide on tik tok, the government cracks down.
They'll probably get mocked and their posts removed.
The same thing that's happening right now with Americans claiming Taiwan is not part of China.
To shreds you say?
China doesn't let it's own people use these apps...
Rednote is mostly chinese users.
I'd bet Chinese government WANTS people using these apps. They have established state control for rapid monitoring and data collection and rapid censorship and targeted groups for manipulation and propaganda.
I mean, trying to regulate technology at the speed of American politics was very obviously a nonsensical and futile proposition from the get-go.
What has social media like tiktok or whatever done to improve peoples lives?
Man, just use Lemmy and stay off those toxic apps. I've had multiple people send me tiktok links and guess what, that shit stays unclicked. I want no part of it.
A lot of people have made it their main income. Whether you or I think that's good or not is irrelevent, but it does mean hundreds of thousands, perhaps millions, of Americans will lose their jobs as a result of this.
I have just as much sympathy for those poor individuals as I would for health insurance employees that would lose their job as a result of U.S. universal healthcare. Well, a little bit more, as they at least made people smile on occasion.
Anyone that knows anything about average TT users knew that if the ban was going to happen, that this was going to happen in some way, shape, or form.
**tearing everything apart
I’m pretty sure Xiao Hong Shu translates to Little Red Note in English. I’m not using it, just clarifying the name to make it seem small / cute. Aduki beans are Xiao hong dou.
First of all, the name doesn't translate to "Little Red Note", but "Little Red Book."
Second, Little Red Book is literally the nickname of a Chinese political publication called Quotations from Chairman Mao Tse-tung.
Sorry, that name isn't cute at all.
It's actually just a funny coincidence, though it's funny when people freak out about it. Mao's "little red book" is written 红宝书, while the app is 小红书, so the connection is only really there in English. Red is a reference to two institutions the creator was involved with, Stanford Business School and Bain & Company, both of which use red as their main color (I imagine the general association of red with good luck may have factored in as well). As for note vs book, I mean, a notebook is a "little book," and note is short for notebook (e.g. Death Note).
If you actually look at the app and what gets posted there and what doesn't, it's pretty silly to assume it's a reference. It was originally called "Hong Kong Shopping Guide" and was targeted towards tourists, the userbase skews female and relatively well off. It's like Instagram, there's lots of cat posts and the the like, lots of fashion, I've come across some pretty impressive furries, and it's even got a decent sized queer community, particularly popular with lesbians.
Even if it were an intentional reference to Mao's book, like, so what? The users are the ones putting out content and they're just regular people. Not everything is some sinister plot.
LOL my god, it's really that in-your-face blatant?!
I think most people know it too. They protest because they have already got hacked a dozen or two times, advertisers steal all data not locked down, and the government scoops up all of that. So they question "what can China do to me that hasn't already been done. My data and privacy has already been made worthless"
Yeah I hear a lot of people asking why it matters if someone has their data cause it must be worthless by now.
I often think the governments wouldn't be fighting this hard to track people if it was.
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