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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Summary

TikTok faces a U.S. shutdown by Jan. 19 unless the Supreme Court delays or blocks a law requiring its Chinese parent, ByteDance, to divest.

The Biden administration defends the law as a national security measure, citing potential risks of Chinese government influence. Content creators argue it violates free speech.

Donald Trump, once a supporter of the ban, seeks a delay to reach a "political resolution."

A shutdown could cost TikTok millions of users and revenue. The court’s decision, due soon, could reshape U.S. digital speech policy.

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[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 90 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Stricter laws restricting data collection would actually solve the problem but that will hurt the American propaganda machine just as much. China will diffuse it's propaganda through our own social media like they clearly already do. They can literally buy the data from our own data brokers, it won't even stop them from being effective.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 11 months ago

"It's to protect our citizens from China!"

"Are we going to have stronger data protection laws across all 50 states and the federal government to help protect our citizens?"

"That sounds like a terrorist wanting privacy to hide form Facebook and Google's data to the NSA!"

[-] EldritchFeminity 11 points 11 months ago

Yeah, Chinese leadership was complaining about the mass migration from Twitter to Bluesky because it rendered their bit accounts useless, so it's not like it's a secret or anything.

This has always been about how TikTok can't be bought out as a propaganda machine by American billionaires.

[-] shittydwarf@lemmy.dbzer0.com 76 points 11 months ago
[-] ech@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Dunno why the last bit was removed. Ruins the wordplay that would apply perfectly here.

[-] SoupBrick@yiffit.net 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This article from 2024 gives a pretty good rundown as to why using this reasoning to ban Tiktok will set a very bad precedent:

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/14/1251086753/tiktok-ban-first-amendment-lawsuit-free-speech-project-texas

If the govt cared about your data privacy, they would create data collection regulations that they could then use to ban tiktok if/when they violate them.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 11 months ago

Tell that to the Leopards Eating My Face voters here advocating for censorship and government overreach.

[-] grue@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago
[-] Supervisor194@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

Why is everything so glacially slow anymore. Fucking do something! I've been hearing about the demise of TiKTok for like three YEARS. Die already. Or don't, I'm just sick of hearing about how it "might close" any fucking day now.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 points 11 months ago

The 19th is the legal deadline.

[-] gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 11 months ago

replace "data" with "ads/propaganda/right-wing content".

Sorry about the bad quality, i've resent this picture so many times now that there's barely any pixels left.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 18 points 11 months ago
[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The best possible outcome would have been a digital bill of rights that applies to all social media. Please step outside the Amazon box youre thinking out of.

[-] njm1314@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

No no I said possible outcome.

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

People really cheering this? I don't like TikTok because I don't much care for that style of short form video - but let's not act like it would be better under US tech giant control. Worse, I'd say.

Officials say Chinese authorities can compel ByteDance to hand over information on TikTok's U.S. patrons

Oooooh scaaaaary. I'd feel much safer having it under the control of a government who actually affects my life. 🙄

Red scare 2.0 bullshit

[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 2 points 11 months ago

I am conditioned to be revolted by autoplay videos. Even here, when I opened this post on the mobile web version, a video autoplayed at the top and I immediately stopped it.

[-] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Facebook first.

[-] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

Don't threaten us with a good time, TikTok!

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

Excellent! Please do. You would be doing the world a favor.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 12 points 11 months ago

Just remember this is was because of so much pro palestine posts on TikTok.

[-] Drusas@fedia.io 6 points 11 months ago

The push to close TikTok happened before the Palestinian genocide.

[-] MetalMachine@feddit.nl 4 points 11 months ago

You're absolutely right. But the palestine issue pushed it over the edge. I forgot who exactly from the israeli camp but they said "we lost a whole generation"

[-] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 12 points 11 months ago
[-] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

It's gonna happen on the 19th because otherwise TikTok could just pay Donald Trump to make it go away.

[-] HeyJoe@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

Is there anything stopping them from just renaming the company and rebranding it to avoid this? I could care less if it goes away or not, but I am curious how easily it could be to just rename yourself or if that's actually covered somehow in this. Even still, I feel like there will definitely be loopholes that they can do to skate around it?

[-] EldritchFeminity 7 points 11 months ago

All they need to do is literally sell the American branch to a US company - even one they set up themselves.

The reason that they won't do this is because a US founded company has to play by different rules than a Chinese company can.

[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Good. They're an espionage company masquerading as social media. They're a cancer.

[-] emeralddawn45@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

What is facebook? Instagram? Google? Twitter? I dont use any of those if i can help it, nor TikTok. But supporting the ban of one of them while allowing the others free reign just because they're owned in the US is insane. Their CEOs don't have anyone's best interests in mind except their own, as has been proven time and time again.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 2 points 11 months ago

Great, I can smell the undeserved court injunction getting ready to spew forth from the Supreme Court. The type no regular US citizen would ever get for actual violations of the 1st amendment.

[-] tiefling 2 points 11 months ago

Do Meta and Xitter next

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