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[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 175 points 2 months ago

Man, it's so wild how little we know about biology and how much we as a society spend on absolute, utter, bullshit, instead of figuring out how just the basics of us work.

I know it was never possible before modern computers, labs, and equipment, but we really should have like 1000x the amount of basic biological research going on that we do.

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 81 points 2 months ago

I got a degree in microbiology in 95 and I did not know about these. Heck I even did a rotation in an xray crystallography lab which was super into cellular structures.

[-] MsPenguinette@lemmy.world 74 points 2 months ago

To be brutally honest, 95 was an eternity ago in microbiology terms. Human genome project didn’t complete till 2003. You must have some wild perspective on seeing us go from what are essentially a modern dark times to modern day

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 45 points 2 months ago

oh certainly. even at that time the xray crystallography lab was basically dying out as it was becoming more of a standard tool rather than an area of research.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 months ago

From the Age of Enlightenment to essentially space flight, in a single career. 🤓🤌🏼

[-] HubertManne@moist.catsweat.com 24 points 2 months ago

Oh I think my thing is a bit misleading. I left the field in 1998 and switched to IT for the pay. I pretty much stopped being on the inside at that time.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

No worries, I was being hyperbolic anyhow 🤓🤪

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

my exact feelings, I was like how come I did not know about these

[-] davepleasebehave@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

the new update to reality dropped last year. not your fault.

[-] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

They apparently even patched the text books!

[-] _NetNomad@fedia.io 30 points 2 months ago

we think about people 100 or 500 years ago and it seems absurd just how little they knew about health and the body, but hopefully we'll look the same to our descendants in as many years

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 2 months ago

When I was much younger, the favorite restaurant my family used to treat ourselves to every so often had tables decorated with olde timey newspaper pages. Still very much legible and permanently preserved in epoxy, the advertisements fascinated me — even way back when (≈/< 1930s), the same kinds of "revolutionary" "exotic" "new" tricks that <insert expert title(s)> hate, etc. squawked their bullshit for the punters & mouth breathers. Hell, even Pompeii revealed it's been going on for millennia... Same as it ever was. 🙇🏽‍♂️🤓😅

[-] tigeruppercut@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 months ago

You should check out the dollop podcast. Recently they started doing a segment (the past times) where they read sections from old newspapers (even stuff from the 18th and 19th centuries). Some crazy stuff got printed back in the day and it's interesting to see how people viewed papers way back in the day.

https://player.fm/series/the-dollop-with-dave-anthony-and-gareth-reynolds-2313603

[-] BarbecueCowboy@lemmy.world 16 points 2 months ago

Ask any expert in almost any field of science. If they're good at their jobs, they'll mostly tell you the same thing about their field.

The scariest thing in the world is that you can apply that to nearly everything.

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[-] AngryRobot@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

The absolute, utterly bullshit is what leads to other advances and a better understanding of the basics. For example, optical storage technology is a direct result of a federally funded study on how moth eyes gather and utilize light.

[-] masterspace@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Yeah, I'm not talking about developing new computer technologies as utter bullshit, I'm talking about the trillions spent on advertising for instance, or social media platforms.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago
[-] neidu3@sh.itjust.works 66 points 2 months ago

All I know is that Vaults are NOT the powerhouse of the cell.

[-] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 46 points 2 months ago

The infographic appears to be noob-friendly because of its title but then expects you to know what VPARP is and what it's for

[-] hansolo@lemm.ee 21 points 2 months ago

Isn't it that rapping cartoon dog from the PS1?

[-] TheOakTree@lemm.ee 11 points 2 months ago
[-] nomous@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

"Punch, kick, it's all in the cellular structure!"

[-] FundMECFS@slrpnk.net 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Interesting. Makes me wonder if it might play a role in some physical illnesses we haven’t found a cause for yet, especially immune mediated ones.

Decent article going more in depth

[-] jaxiiruff@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 months ago

This is seriously interesting yet unsettling at the same time that these are not being studied more. For whatever reason I have a feeling that they are going to be way more important someday since all creatures have them.

[-] FundMECFS@slrpnk.net 18 points 2 months ago

I mean that’s biology. We can do some pretty cool stuff, but we just don’t understand how so much in the human body works. It’s so fucking complex.

[-] EldritchFeminity 14 points 2 months ago

I was instantly reminded of the appendix, where for so long we thought it was just an extraneous evolutionary leftover of an organ, only to find out not all that long ago that it actually acts as a seed vault of sorts for our gut's microbial biome to repopulate the good bacteria in case something bad happens and wipes them out.

[-] Carrolade@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Lead researcher has a youtube channel linked at the bottom of that article, too.

[-] PineRune@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

What if they're only to make the cells bigger so our bodies don't need to make so many of them to reach a total size as large as we are?

[-] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 44 points 2 months ago

Should be called the chungus then

[-] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 33 points 2 months ago
[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago

The key to surviving global thermonuclear war has been hiding in our cells the whole time?

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

It's bullet time! We have to figure out how to activate our bullet time or VATS. 😎

[-] oleorun@real.lemmy.fan 19 points 2 months ago

Incredible article and read that will send me down the rabbit-hole later when I have some free time!

Thanks for sharing!

[-] Preflight_Tomato@lemm.ee 13 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

My wild speculation:

Viral snares/traps? Semi-permeable membrane + RNA; the virus gets in and binds to the RNA inside, then the viral package is "spent" on fake RNA that can't replicate. The MVP shell could keep regular cellular machinery away from the trap RNA. There are thousands of these vaults within the cell, as to create a bunch of "pits" that a virus could fall into, thus effectively slowing viral spread, even a little?

edit: from a link in the article:

vault protein somehow helps epithelial cells internalize P. aeruginosa, which in turn speeds the clearance of an infection. Compared to normal mice, for example, MVP-less mice were 3 times as likely to die when their lungs were infected with the bacterium

This was mentioned as a hypothesis that was determined to be fruitless. Was this ever explored further? Different viruses, organ systems, etc.? Since it's in a lot of different organisms, maybe some common virus that affects many different species is affected by this.

This is very interesting.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 2 months ago

What's next, our cells commit usury?

[-] Soleos@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

They're for storing the molecular correlates of trauma, obviously :3

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 2 points 2 months ago

They're not "for" anything. No evolutionary trait is. You're suggesting intelligent design.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

No one is suggesting intelligent design. On this planet we use what is known as "colloquialisms" in a non-professional setting. I hope your world learns them someday.

[-] 000@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago

Fair point but dickishly made

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

Claiming I was suggesting intelligent design when I obviously wasn't is a pretty dickish thing to say, so...

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 2 months ago

Strange thing to be insulted by, and strange response! It's an interesting case. I've begun my documentation here

https://redlemmy.com/post/99913

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

"It's strange that you're insulted by my claim that you're pushing right-wing Christian lies on people."

And why would you "document" something that's already on a public website? I'm not clicking on your link to find out. For all I know, it's malware.

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 2 months ago

Where on Earth did you get "right-wing Christian lies" from? This is truly remarkable! You've invented an entire dialog that never happened to justify a hateful and cruel behavior. Does your wife know about this?

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

That's what intelligent design is. Right-wing Christian lies. I'm not sure why you're now pretending it isn't.

[-] stinky@redlemmy.com 1 points 2 months ago

You seem so upset by something you think you heard. I feel very sorry for you

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

So you're saying intelligent design is true? Are you the right-wing Christian?

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