Why [@firefox](https://lemmy.ml/c/firefox) is not implementing this UI by default and why none of the Firefox-derived web browsers implementing this. : firefox

[+] Lucia@eviltoast.org 43 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] zurohki@aussie.zone 13 points 2 years ago

And I've never looked at Firefox's tab bar and thought, this UI element really needs to occupy a lot more screen space.

The chunk of screen space lost to that tabs window wouldn't be as big a deal if the windows were maximised, but there's no button for that now either.

[-] Knusper@feddit.de 6 points 2 years ago

I don't think the missing maximise button is intentional. They seem to be using a minimal (Linux) window manager and it's quite common for those folks to use keyboard shortcuts for maximising, closing etc., so they probably didn't have those window buttons even before starting that redesign...

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 3 points 2 years ago

@Knusper @zurohki

I am using a tiling window manager so keybaord shortcut for every thing.

I can just make it visible just by adding few lines.

[-] TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 years ago

Don’t put this look on gnome apps lol, they look way better than this.

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 4 points 2 years ago

@TeryVeneno @Lucia

Definitely, If i can develop this in two days, then it shouldn't be as good as gnome apps, which is being developed and designed by industry expert. So no worry over there, you gnome app wont be hurt.

[-] TeryVeneno@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t think you can see this on mastodon, but you were kind so take an upvote.

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 2 points 2 years ago

@TeryVeneno this is all we can give to strangers KINDNESS 😄

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah, I hate this redesign, maybe that's why Mozilla stuck with the design that works?

[-] Knusper@feddit.de 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Judging by your comment history, you use Linux, so here's a neat trick:

Hold down the Alt-key, then you should be able to drag windows from any of their pixels. If that isn't working, try the Meta/Windows-key.

And if you do the same, but with right-click+drag, it should resize the window.

...but yeah, if we're genuinely proposing this as Firefox's new design, there should still be regular drag space.

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago

@Lucia Its not to make it look like something else, the screens are become wider and not taller, and it make more sense to move the the tab bar to side (vertical tab bar).

I hide the CLOSE, MINIMIZE & MAXIMIZE button as i am using Sway (a tiling window manager).

And to move, we can just press the mod button (CMD on macs and window logo button on keyboards) then just press the left mouse click on firefox to move screen.

[-] MorphiusFaydal@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I definitely prefer Firefox as it is now to that.

[-] miniu@beehaw.org 11 points 2 years ago

I'll note that not everyone has hundreds of tabs open ;) I prefer my tabs on the top as I never have more then 4 and even then I feel it's too many.

[+] nan 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

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[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 5 points 2 years ago

@nan
thank god, one like minded person, integrated vertical tabs and tab groups please

[-] gabriele97@lemmy.g97.top 1 points 2 years ago

Yep I don't understand why they have not been implemented yet

[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 years ago

By the way, not sure if you did this intentionally, but through the magic of federation, you also posted this to the Firefox community on Lemmy: https://lemmy.ml/post/3562992

That's why some of the comments are interpreting this post a lot less like you're just expressing a personal opinion, but rather like you're saying this is the one and only truth...

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 3 points 2 years ago

@Ephera I just want to share my thought, and definitely this is not the only solution, this worked for me doesn't mean it will for all.

I am just suggesting this to be one of the possible consideration.

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[-] lightsecond@programming.dev 2 points 2 years ago

It doesn’t look half-bad but i would rather have roughly the same firefox interface on every OS than have it customized for gnome as it appears here.

[-] CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space 2 points 2 years ago

Take a look at Floorp, it's a little rough around the edges but has vertical tabs plus a lot of other nice features. Feels a lot like Vivaldi but Firefox-based instead of Chromium-based.

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago

@CloverSi

tried it, didn't liked it.

[-] CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 2 years ago

That's too bad, I just started using it a few days ago and I love it. Covers most of the customization I want to do to Firefox that's kind of a pain like vertical tabs, alternate themes, reopen last closed tab button, etc etc. Out of curiosity, what do you prefer about other browsers/forks? Floorp seems like it covers more of the changes you've made in the screenshot than any other I know of, is there another one with more customization options?

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 0 points 2 years ago

@CloverSi to be honest, there is no significant improvement or difference between most of the firefox derivative and firefox iteself, they dont bring anything new/different to table other than implement uere.js by default.

which i can just copy past from github.

And the floorps has just copied all the css files from https://github.com/MrOtherGuy/firefox-csshacks/ and implemented it in toggle, which anyone can reproduce and there was some flaws. something like "Arc Browser" or "SigmaOS browser" which are macos only

[-] CloverSi@lemmy.comfysnug.space 1 points 2 years ago

Your original post was asking why no Firefox forks implement that ui, but now you're saying there's no point when you can make those changes yourself...

[-] Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago

I'm not sure if I unterstand you correctly, but Vivaldi can be configured to have tabs on any side, and (sorta-nested) tab groups if you're so inclined. It's based on Chromium though.

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 1 points 2 years ago

@Radiant_sir_radiant I tried it for a week, I like it but its not @firefox (does it make sense, definitely not)

To be honest its very hard to justify why @firefox "only" , cant see myself using anything other than firefox based and cant reason why this is case.

[-] Radiant_sir_radiant@beehaw.org 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Hey, "I'm happy with it" is as good a justification as any. 🙂

It does make it a challenge though. I don't know of any Firefox-based browser that does that. But then again, I'm by no means well-informed there. Maybe somebody will build one?

[-] Mio@feddit.nu 1 points 2 years ago

I dont think it should be default. Personally I think tabs on right click might even be smarter since I would not have to move the mouse so far. Yes, I don't horde tabs. I never understood how to handle tabs without the title. So I never have more than 10 tabs.

[-] dantheclamman@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I have set up something pretty similar to yours in windows, and people have actually complemented me on it when I share my screen. That being said, I think it would be a pretty intimidating interface for non-power users.

[-] ashishlotake@mastodon.social 1 points 2 years ago

@dantheclamman Yeah i totally forget about non-power user, I am happy with result and want to share.