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submitted 2 weeks ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/til@lemmy.world

If you needed yet another reason to quit smoking, here it is.

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[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 95 points 2 weeks ago

I live in the US and it's becoming more and more unusual in many places to see people smoking. As a result, I see fewer discarded cigarette butts than ever. Still not zero, but getting there.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago

I live in the U.S. too and I still see a ton here in Indiana, but we also apparently have a nicotine addiction epidemic here that no one talks about much.

As of 2022:

Nearly 29% of Indiana adults currently use tobacco. Combustible cigarettes are the most used tobacco product, followed by e-cigarettes.

https://www.in.gov/health/tpc/files/Indiana-Adult-Tobacco-Survey-ATS-2021_2022-Highlights_Revised_Nov22.pdf

[-] TomMasz@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

I'm in Western NY, but even in NYC it's less than 9%. The state offers a lot of support for quitting, perhaps that's why.

[-] TwentySeven@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Aren't cigarettes like $15 a pack there? That probably has something to do with it.

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[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

I remember when I left Indiana 25 years ago that it was the highest per capita state for smoking, with Kentucky being number 2.

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[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 35 points 2 weeks ago

It's the hardest thing about traveling to Europe for me. I love being in Europe, but after living in a part of the US with almost no smokers it is jarring to smell cigarette smoke everywhere on the streets there.

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[-] Chessmasterrex@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

It's one of those big cultural shifts that has gone on in my life slowly but steadily. I recall my school bus driver would smoke doing his rounds, people smoking almost everywhere, even grocery stores. My family had lots of smokers, 3 out of my 4 grandparents smoked, all paid the piper, the habit led to their demise. Vending machines selling cigarettes everywhere. I recall it first was restricted on airplanes, with smoking sections separated with curtains, then in restaurants. A lot of it was ineffective and mostly symbolic, but then the biggest change was when California banned almost all indoor smoking in businesses, other states followed suit over the next decade. That combined with all the legal problems the tobacco industry had in the 90s has really caused a dramatic shift.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I love smoking. I know it's killing me. I realize it stinks to other people. I never smoke indoors. I try my best to be considerate of others and never throw my butts on the ground.

But it's getting a bit ridiculous the demonizing of smokers in the US. If I walk to the edge of a business's property where there is literally no one and smoke a cigarette, I shouldn't be harassed by cops or security to cross the street, go several blocks away, or similar.

[-] bestagon@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

LE are just assholes. I vape now but have dreamed of just hand rolling cigs ahead of time. Biodegradable, smells better, tastes better

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[-] ApollosArrow@lemmy.world 10 points 2 weeks ago

Is it just being replaced by other equally bad habits? I just found out that disposable vape pens are a thing. Those have plastics and electronics inside. I have no idea what the numbers there are.

[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

Although vaping has become really big, there's a lot more people quitting smoking than there are picking up vaping.

And vaping is not equally bad by a long shot. Cigarettes are far worse for you. Also, vaping isn't nearly as annoying for the people around the user. I say all this as a cigarette smoker myself.

Those disposable vapes are disgustingly wasteful. Apparently you can take them apart and make them reusable or repurpose the battery, but very few people are going to mess with that.

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[-] Steve@communick.news 60 points 2 weeks ago

I thought tires were responsible for like 25% of micro plastics.

Never mind. I just read what I wrote, and realized they're two different things.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 21 points 2 weeks ago

I also had the idea that fishing nets were the most common sea plastic.

[-] hperrin@lemmy.ca 59 points 2 weeks ago

Aren’t microplastics from car tires more common?

[-] embed_me@programming.dev 11 points 2 weeks ago

Presumably plastic pollution is a superset of microplastic pollution

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 48 points 2 weeks ago

Dislike smoking but realize that for addicts often public infrastructure doesn't give you a lot of options for getting rid of butts. Seems like biodegradable butts should be mandatory. On the other hand I will lean into my horn if I see someone throwing butts out of their car. That is inexcusable - get an ashtray for your vehicle.

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 36 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I mean, who cares? It's the smokers' problem? If you can't dispose of your trash take it with you or stop producing it until you can. That's true for any trash.

We expect people to carry doggie bags, too. Just clean up after yourself.

I realize that's idealistic and it's never going to happen because smokers be littering, but it makes me mad regardless.

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[-] MutilationWave@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

I just get all the tobacco out of the butt and put it in my back pocket until I find a trash can. It makes me stink even worse but that's better than littering.

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[-] JovialMicrobial@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago

When I smoked I always put my butts in my pocket.

It's not hard to pick up after yourself. Put the cig out, and instead of dropping it on the ground put it in your pocket. If thats too stinky carry a sandwich bag or dog poop bag for them.

Now that that's out of the way, it's interesting that birds have been using cigarette butts to line their nests. Turns out nicotine is a great miticide. Hopefully it's not hurting them in the long run, which is why we should pick up our fucking garbage.

[-] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

flicking your cigarette into the void was completely normal every place that i lived in the US. it isn't thought about or frowned upon. it's simply part of the ritual of having a cigarette.

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[-] SlopppyEngineer@lemmy.world 46 points 2 weeks ago

Just ban the filter. Let them smoke raw and unfiltered.

[-] cannedtuna@lemmy.world 51 points 2 weeks ago

We should go back to using natural materials for filters, like asbestos. /s

[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 24 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

And as the article already says what’s even worse is the cocktail of chemicals in those filters which are even more harmful than simple PET and the like.

[-] llama@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

That's crazy! I didn't even realize they had plastic in them. Makes you wonder how many inconspicuous everyday items have the potential to become plastic waste.

[-] filcuk@lemmy.zip 22 points 1 week ago

Car tires are supposed to be bad. I remember reading each loses ~1kg in pulverised plastic dust over the lifetime?
Luckily, at least some of that is filtered from the air by people's lungs.

[-] llama@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago

Oh, do you know what else? Paint. Apparently, a lot of studies didn't account for microplastics that came from several types of paint that end up in the environment. Scary stuff.

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[-] cdf12345@lemm.ee 15 points 2 weeks ago

That we know of, I bet microplastics is actually worse but we can’t measure it in aggregate well.

[-] FiniteLooper@lemm.ee 14 points 2 weeks ago

I wasn’t aware cigarettes contained any plastic at all

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

The filters are basically all plastic except the paper around them.

[-] rhacer@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Not a smoker, but I believe smokers are treated poorly, as are businesses that cater to smokers.

But my beliefs are really put to the test everytime I see a smoker throw their butt on the ground.

[-] Soggy@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago

Not treated poorly enough.

[-] rhacer@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

Why should any human being be treated poorly?

[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 weeks ago

For being disrespectful to the people around them.

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