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[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 230 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The confusing alphabet soup of Wi-Fi versions got renamed. 802.11n became Wi-Fi 4, 802.11ac became Wi-Fi 5, and 802.11ax became Wi-Fi 6. Wi-Fi 7 is still in development so 6 is the best in-use version.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 95 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Technically 6E is the best in-use version for compatible devices. Same as WiFi 6 but adds the 6GHz spectrum that was recently unlocked by many regulatory agencies around the world. The 6GHz range is significantly less congested and would have better real-world performance in dense residential areas.

Edit: A few months ago I stumbled upon this site where the author goes quite in-depth about WiFi and does so in a way that is easy to understand. They debunk/corroborate claims and technologies advertised by manufacturers so it really helps demystify the process of selecting the right WiFi gear.

[-] MimicJar@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago

It's funny that WiFi is alphabet soup as the other comment mentioned, they rebranded to a single, simple number...then chucked an E on the end.

I get how/why, but it's just funny.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 30 points 2 years ago
[-] Strykker@programming.dev 15 points 2 years ago

Usb could have been great, then they decided that with every minor version bump they needed to go back and fuck with the name of the previous version..

Like FFS just do 3(5gbps) 3.1(10gbps) 3.2(20gbps) etc or whatever the fucking difference even is between them all at this point.

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[-] Paradox@lemdro.id 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

6E is great, but basically nothing supports it. I got a 6E capable AP from Ubiquiti, and looking at my devices table, basically nothing has ever used the 6GHz radio. My house has a wide variety of devices, many new. The only thing that's used it is my MacBook

[-] derpo@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

And that MacBook must get unparalleled speed and airtime

[-] Clusterfck@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago

I got over a 1 gigabit download on my S23 Ultra and still couldn't believe that 10 years ago 10 megabit on wifi was considered decent.

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[-] mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world 27 points 2 years ago

And then, because they can’t help themselves, they came out with 6E. Honestly I think all standards bodies (USB, HDMI, WiFi) just love making stupid sub-versions that make things even more confusing.

[-] worsedoughnut@lemdro.id 23 points 2 years ago

pre-numbering, it was almost like trying to decipher Sanskrit when going out to buy a router.

[-] Kazumara@feddit.de 16 points 2 years ago

I'm more confused now than before. I always knew what b, g, n and ac were, but now when people say Wifi 5 or Wifi 6 I don't know which of the standards it corresponds to.

[-] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 34 points 2 years ago

Just count them, that's what I do. 1 is a, 2 is b, 3 is g, 4 is n, 5 is ac, 6 is ax.

[-] naticus@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You want to be really confused then? Because b is WiFi 1 and a is WiFi 2. Everything else you said is correct though.

[-] Etienne_Dahu@jlai.lu 11 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Wait, what? How could they do that? The first standard was wifi a, I was there 3000 years ago! These guys have no respect for history! /OldManYellsAtCloud

Edit: it seems that b and a both came in 1999. Oh well.

[-] anlumo@feddit.de 4 points 2 years ago

They also weren’t compatible with each other. That was fun.

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[-] towerful@programming.dev 16 points 2 years ago

WiFi has literally gone the opposite of USB.
It used to be obvious what USB speeds were, whereas WiFi was 802.11b or whatever.
Now we have WiFi 5 or WiFi 6. And we have USB-C PD 10gbps with AltMode

[-] hyperhopper@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

USB has gotten more complicated and does way more now in more contexts. It charges laptops now, it carries multiplexed displayport signals, it does its own handshake and performs hardware level initialization protocols.

Meanwhile we've been wanting the same thing out of wifi since the start. Nothing's really changed, we just want it to go faster.

[-] towerful@programming.dev 4 points 2 years ago

Fair point.
USB doing everything requires significantly more description of what a port can actually do.
I just wish the USB foundation didn't go with something that makes it difficult to find devices supporting specific features, and played directly into the marketing "upselling/shrinkflation" thing.
The ubs3.1, usb3.2, gen1, gen2, 10gbps etc. It's a LOT, and everything is very similar.

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[-] favrion@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago
[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 44 points 2 years ago

The very simple version is that the newer versions support faster speeds.

[-] mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 2 years ago

I would add the potential for better range as well from a variety of improvements.

Newer WiFi standards can take advantage of multiple frequencies in a single link, which allows for fallback on the slower, but longer range, 2.4GHz networks. Beamforming has been available since at least WiFi 5 (802.11ac) and helps connection quality as well. The new 6GHz spectrum is uncongested and gives better performance in areas with high saturation of 2.4GHz and 5GHz networks, such as apartments and highrises.

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[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 4 points 2 years ago

Never heard about Wi-Fi 4. Always 'n' letter was advertised.

Wi-Fi 5 kinda associated with 5 GHz bandwidth, but can be also used on the 2.4 GHz.

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 21 points 2 years ago

It's a retroactive name just to keep the numbering scheme logical. It would be weird to start off giving the next version "1" so they added numbers to all of the old versions. 802.11n was renamed a full 15 years after it was released!

[-] VanillaGorilla@kbin.social 4 points 2 years ago

I wished they'd tidy up the clusterfuck that's USB versions. Especially in combination with thunderbolt. Holy...

[-] Kethal@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

USB 3.1 Gen 1 is the same as USB 3.0. It's like they're trying to foster scam products. I would genuinely like to know how this bullshit naming scheme came into existence if anyone reading this happens to know.

[-] kirklennon@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago

Do you mean to say it's not perfectly logical that USB 3.0, USB 3.1 Gen 1, and USB 3.2 Gen 1 are all actually the same version? I wish I could travel back in time to the meeting where that was proposed and slap the person in the face until they realized the error of their ways.

[-] Malkor@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

802.11a was 5GHz long before Wi-Fi 5 was a phrase, and "Wi-Fi 5" as a phrase does not imply any particular frequency.

[-] xenspidey@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago

It was like a posthumous award

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[-] ulph@lemmy.world 33 points 2 years ago
[-] Squirrel@artemis.camp 25 points 2 years ago

It means it is only 1/3 evil

[-] nucleative@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

That's... Not how any of this works 🤔

[-] cheeseandkrakens@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago
[-] uriel238 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

This isn't a wrong answers only post so lets make sure everyone is aware of Internet Protocol versions 4 and 6.

Most internet addies look like this 001.002.003.004

That's IPv4, the current common standard. And were running out of addresses.

To fix this some systems are using IPv6 which adds two more numbers (and more bits per number) as well as a whole batch of protocol improvements.

I'm pretty sure that's what the WiFi ⁶ enumerator is about.

...or maybe I'm wrong. All the interne6 suggests its the WiFi protocol version 6. Sorry.

c/confidentlyincorrect

[-] trailblazer911@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

It's the WiFi version. Some devices also show 6E.

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