And journalist and Democrats still wonder why we fucking hate the police.
Am I the only one who is bothered by the fact that these police probably suffer as much as the people they are oppressing?
I don't think that's logically a possibility? Not unless the police also have a group of thugs that can assault them without consequence.
Being a lapdog of the capital class has its benefits. The police have some of the strongest unions in the nation and are way way overcompensated for their level of training and education.
Well I meant that they are closer to us than the oligarchy. Their wives work there. They pay more for shipping. That sort of thing.
We cannot have a tiny number of very rich elite without a very large number of working class serving the interests of those rich elite rather than their own.
Severity varies. Some are class traitors, some just need that paycheck.
Yes and that's what annoys me.
Why is everyone surprised .... this what the police have always done against striking workers.
By design they are meant to maintain law and order ... not to serve and protect people ... the whole 'serve and protect' phrase was marketing campaign by the LAPD created by police propaganda in the 1960s and it didn't have any actual obligation for the police to serve or to protect people ... it was just a catchy phrase that made the police sound good when they in fact could do the opposite or nothing at all. But no matter how they treated people, they always throughout history have always consistently protected wealth, property and those with power.
Why is everyone surprised …
Nice to have a bit of physical imagery to wave around when you're dealing with a liberal who insists police are these neutral non-partisan agents.
Not that it'll necessarily work, of course. I can already hear some pensioner with a Harris sticker insisting that "um, aktuly, its the union that's being violent and the police who are being civil and restrained". But for the younger and more clear-eyed, its a damning current indictment of a system you mostly just read about in history books.
What kind of liberals do you know that would stick up for the police!?
By design they are meant to maintain law and order
Not at all or qualified immunity, officer and prosecutorial discretion wouldn't exist.
... not to serve and protect people
Correct, they're asset protection for the highest earners.
If they truly were meant to uphold the law, they would be held to the highest standards of said law and prosecuted for the slightest deviation from it.
Nicely summarized in Robocop.
Solidarity for Bezos and his yachts, can't have him suffer from these rabblerousers living paycheque to paycheque taking a stand - NYPD.
Taxpayers. We’re the fucking taxpayers. This is after NY gave Amazon $3.5B in tax breaks.
We’re the fucking taxpayers.
That's the joke of modern capitalist liberal democracy. It's not the people paying the rents who are in charge. It's the folks collecting.
That's how solidarity works (Cops and private property)
Now its your turn
Smash?
My favorite passages about how to win against the cops in a worker movement come from Farrell Dobbs Teamster Rebellion:
Under capitalism the main police function is to break strikes and to repress other forms of protest against the policies of the ruling class. Any civic usefulness other forms of police activity may have, like controlling traffic and summoning ambulances, is strictly incidental to the primary repressive function. Personal inclinations of individual cops do not alter this basic role of the police. All must comply with ruling-class dictates. As a result, police repression becomes one of the most naked forms through which capitalism subordinates human rights to the demands of private property. If the cops sometimes falter in their antisocial tasks, it is simply because they – like the guns they use – are subject to rust when not engaged in the deadly function for which they are primarily trained.
No police organization is exactly the same day in and day out. Two essential factors determine its character at a given moment: the social climate in which the cops have been operating and the turnover of personnel within the force. An unseasoned cop may tend to be somewhat considerate of others in the performance of duty, especially while class relations are relatively peaceful. Even in such calm times, however, the necessary accommodation must be made to capitalist demands, including readiness to shoot anyone who tampers with private property. Otherwise the aspiring cop, if he is not kicked out of the force, will have little chance of rising beyond a beat in the sticks. By gradually weeding out misfits along these general lines, a police department can keep itself abreast of requirements during a more or less stable period in class relations.
but when it's the cop's union under scrutiny, they stand united.
because it's getting them off of a murder rap
This is at it's core the police problem. They are class traitors.
They're not traitors .... they never had any loyalty to the population to begin with
They were created to 'maintain law and order' .... not some fanciful idea of protecting or serving people.
Police are working-class ergo they are class traitors.
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Getting libs to develop class consciousness can feel like a Sisyphean task.
maybe we just need minor reforms and more capitalism
Real capitalism has never been tried!
hey guys! make sure everyone goes out and votes! nothing more important in a democracy than voting! 😁
How are they traitors if they never ever worked for that class in the first place (in USAs case)?
Edit: to clarify, it's a joke in the sense that that was the core job description
It's not about working for a class, it's about being part of that class.
Police, whether we like them or not, are also part of the working class. They are class traitors in that respect. They serve the ownership class and fight "their own."
There are a class of people that own capital to make capital, and there are a class that labor to acquire capital.
The cops labor to acquire capital on behalf of the class that owns capital to make capital that does no labor.
They do this.... unless it's their own union, Then they don't!
There’s nothing more perverse than a cop union.
Teen Vogue (I know, right?): Police Unions: What to Know and Why They Don’t Belong in the Labor Movement
Where's that campus cop with the pepper spray when you need him
This is why All Cops Are Bastards: their primary purpose is to protect private property, AKA the means of production.
There's a Netflix documentary about the police. Very interesting and they are not on worker's side.
this the corniest shit I've ever fucking seen lmfao
As is the tradition.
Why are they all so fat? Seems like they need to re-up the physical fitness exams.
They might be, but it's also winter and they are wearing big jackets and a bullet proof vest.
Okay, what are they actually specifically doing though? Making a wall so that...?
They're helping break a strike like good little oligarchy stooges.
Right, but how is what they're doing breaking the strike?
Looks like they're making a corridor so that scabs can get in and warehouse supplies can get out. Cops put themselves in between the business and the strikers so that they can treat any conflict with the business as an attack on the "neutral" police.
Israeli settlers employ similar tactics in Gaza. You'll have civilians go into Palestinian homes and onto Palestinian worksites, set up makeshift structures, and declare the property there's. Then the IDF hover over their shoulders, ready to open fire on any Palestinian who confronts the settler.
In this case, the cops on the line aren't the ones you need to worry about. It's the cops waiting at the APC ready to charge in, crack heads, grab picketers, and drag them to jail if any of the first group cries foul that you have to worry about.
It "looks" like the police are protecting delivery trucks, and blocking strikers from the drive. They're preventing the strikers from walking across the drive and hindering deliveries.
will anyone think of the starving billionaires??
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