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[-] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 24 points 1 year ago

Are we going to be sending them pilots as well or do they just expect them to start the long training process to learn how to fly them and hope the pointless (but Russia's fault) war lasts long enough to use them?

[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 61 points 1 year ago

Your answer is in the first paragraph of the source.

[-] BobVersionFour@kbin.social 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Expecting people to actually read an article ? What a weird idea

[-] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago
[-] DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe 23 points 1 year ago

Well it is a shitposting sub so I think you get a pass on not doing the homework

[-] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago

Thank fuck. We were getting dangerously close to credibility.

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 20 points 1 year ago

The pilots will be Ukrainian from what I understand. But the planes are owned by the respective countries. The only reason for the sensationalist headline, beside clickbait, is because the F-16 is an American made fighter jet.

[-] bouh@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

The fact the f16 is US made means a country cannot give it to another country without the US approval. It is the case for all armaments. The producing country must allow the transfer.

[-] Efwis@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 year ago

This is true. But the headlines like to make it appear as though they are from US bases

[-] MonkeyBusiness@lemmy.one 17 points 1 year ago

As I understand it (but have no source) there are Ukraine pilots being trained on the F-16 stateside

[-] RegularGoose@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Meanwhile, the people in Maui who lost their homes and everything they've ever owned get a one time payment of $700.

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 53 points 1 year ago

Funny how nobody ever makes these sorts of comments about, say, money we spend paying farmers to not grow corn, or money we spend on overpriced or useless weapons systems for our own military, or even specifically the military aid we give to wealthier, less deserving countries like Saudi Arabia and Israel; it's always Ukraine that brings out the "how come we aren't spending money on X" people.

[-] SpicyPeaSoup@kbin.social 32 points 1 year ago

They're either paid shills, or braindead useful idiots. Russia cultivates both types for propaganda.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago

You know I've been noticing a heck of a lot of communists on Lemmy the past week. It's crazy, there's this whole gaggle of people posting on socialism, hex bear, Games, vegan topics and related threads.

[-] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

These jets were already sold to the Danes and Dutch, we’re just giving them the green light to send planes made by us to Ukraine to help free their people from oppressors

[-] trafficnab@lemm.ee 38 points 1 year ago

If they had instead sent those F-16s to the people of Maui they could have dropped napalm to create a firebreak ahead of the fire, saving hundreds of lives

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[-] Cylusthevirus@kbin.social 33 points 1 year ago

I don't see how F16s would help them but maybe an airshow would spread the Spirit of Aloha.

[-] Tar_alcaran@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Youre right, the Dutch should donate their old F16s to the suffering people of Maui because... Uhhh....

Because, damn it! Because!

[-] Custoslibera@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

As much as I hate the idea that America is a capitalist hellscape that minces the poor to make ‘line go up’.

Sometimes there’s this unfortunate coincidence where the military industrial complex inadvertently does some good.

Russians are going to learn why America doesn’t have the money for universal healthcare.

As much as I appreciate the sentiment I am pretty sure universal healthcare would cost the country less than medicaid and medicare; or so I have heard.

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[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 16 points 1 year ago

You are right…. There should be a climate damage levy imposed on Exxon to help cover these extreme weather events and the people directly affected by their actions.

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

I think everybody who's reading this thread is going to fail to see the connection you're trying to draw between Hawaiian Electric and light and the Ukrainian military.

Unless you have some sort of evidence that Ukraine owns and operates Hawaiian Electric and will somehow benefit from Hawaiians losing their ancestral homes.

I mean, I've seen some stupid conspiracies of my time but this is just dumb.

[-] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

in international weapons sales manufacturer's country retains some degree of control over equipment even after sale, especially for heavy equipment like any aircraft, SPGs, SAMs, tanks and so on. so for example if Country A sells jets to Country B to serve in Country B's air force, that's all clear, but if then Country B wants to sell them somewhere else, it has to get Country A's approval. otherwise, if these jets mysteriously find themselves in Country C's air force, that happens to be enemy of Country A, then Country B can probably forget about any weapon deals with Country A and their allies for a long long time in addition to diplomatic mess it would cause

this is that approval given from usa to nederlands and denmark, no money is involved

there was little shitshow about it early in the war, because ammo for gepards was made in switzerland, and they didn't approve of sale from germany to ukraine

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[-] wookiepedia@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Because every f16 sent to Ukraine gets backfilled by an f35?

[-] Quacksalber@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, you got plenty of time to calm down. The pilot training hasn't even started yet.

[-] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago
[-] freedomenjoyer@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 year ago

Whats your sollution? Surrender?

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