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A study that stoked enthusiasm for the now-disproven idea that a cheap malaria drug can treat COVID-19 has been retracted — more than four-and-a-half years after it was published.

... Its eventual withdrawal, on the grounds of concerns over ethical approval and doubts about the conduct of the research, marks the 28th retraction for co-author Didier Raoult, a French microbiologist, formerly at Marseille’s Hospital-University Institute Mediterranean Infection (IHU), who shot to global prominence in the pandemic. French investigations found that he and the IHU had violated ethics-approval protocols in numerous studies, and Raoult has now retired.

“Why it took more than four-and-a-half years after the study was initially published for the journal to come to this conclusion is not clear. It is also somewhat surprising that most of the paper’s authors still stand by study’s findings and conclusions despite its obvious inconsistencies, methodological flaws and potential ethical issues as outlined in the retraction note,” says Søgaard.

The paper (now marked as retracted): https://doi.org/10.1016/j.ijantimicag.2020.105949

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[-] takeda@lemmy.world 166 points 3 days ago

The paper linking vaccines with autism was also retracted, and that didn't stop them.

[-] zlatiah@lemmy.world 37 points 3 days ago

Unfortunately... Isn't there a saying like "the amount of effort to refute bullshit is much large than the amount needed to produce it" or something? So sadly the HCQ thing is just going to stay there for now; the journal taking 4.5 years to retract it didn't help either

[-] grysbok@lemmy.sdf.org 19 points 3 days ago

"A lie can travel halfway around the world while the truth is still putting on its shoes."

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 21 points 3 days ago

Andrew Wakefield has a lot to answer for.

[-] devfuuu@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

"they're hiding the truth", that's what fuels conspiracy theories.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

People are not bright. If a source they trust says something is bad, it’s hard to back track.

Shit, a lot of people still think egg yokes substantially increase blood cholesterol.

[-] XeroxCool@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

And that dietary fat gets applied immediately as body fat. No conversion necessary. No strong feelings on sugar intake.

[-] nulluser@lemmy.world 55 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

More proof that hydroxychloroquine is a miracle drug and the lizard people just don't want us to know about it.

[-] chuymatt@startrek.website 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I mean, it is an awesome drug! I use it a lot. Even in covid suffers - when COVID activates an autoimmune disease.

Let’s do ivermectin next! I’ll go first: fantastic for endo and ectoparasites, and even a subset of folks with rosacea. Does jack all for Covid infections.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah ivermectin is a miracle drug …in antiparasitic medicine. Virology not so much

[-] chuymatt@startrek.website 1 points 2 days ago

I…. Isn’t that what I said?

[-] SoleInvictus 5 points 3 days ago

It's a miracle drug but only if you're a lizard person. You need that zeta reticulan biology for it to work.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Agree... So many people are so far gone from logic that anything and everything either proves them right or is a conspiracy. Guess free education is important in a society that wants to remain just this... A society of people living and functioning together. We are entering the "find out" phase

[-] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 19 points 3 days ago

Countless hours and public funds, wasted.

[-] mPony@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

and also, you know, human lives.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

I assume it took that long because good science is rarely fast and fast science is rarely good

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 3 points 2 days ago

The Covid vaccines were fast and good.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

They were remarkably fast for a vaccine, they were effective and also the most unpleasant vaccine I've had. And they involved the industrialized world dumping huge amounts of resources into their creation. They also took significantly longer than the study proposing hydrocychloroquine. The study refuting it wasn't on a timer so it was able to take it slow and go at the pace of normal science.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago

Yes, but also we were incredibly lucky that most of the technology already existed. If covid happened 5 years prior, we would not have those vaccines.

[-] BedSharkPal@lemmy.ca 21 points 3 days ago

I still don't get why the higher ups pushed this and Ivermectin so hard. Like, they clearly aren't anti big pharma, so it must be someone getting their beak wet. But who?

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago

If you remember the time, Trump was pushing for any narrative that could let him say COVID wasn't a big deal and would just disappear. He was looking for easy answers.

[-] prole 3 points 2 days ago

He was looking for easy answers.

This is fucking everyone and it's so goddamn bleak.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 days ago

Yeah that's the problem with people in leadership roles. They should know better than to think complex problems have easy solutions.

Unfortunately, a lot of the voting public gravitate towards the leaders that assure them there are easy answers. The average person doesn't want to hear a nuanced answer to a complex issue.

[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 9 points 3 days ago

You want a conspiracy theory?

It was designed to make any criticism of big pharma look crazy.

[-] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Which it also didn't do. Nobody "trusts" "big Pharma". They trust doctors, scientists, and the regulatory bodies that oversee them.

[-] BeatTakeshi@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Hanlon's razor

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

The damage is done. The conspiracy nuts will just believe that the all mysterious “they” are trying to hide research.

[-] IzzyScissor@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

It did what it needed to.

Now that the damage is done, they can pretend to have integrity again to convince people to believe them when they publish the next "miracle study".

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