230
Biden Slammed After Commuting Sentence of “Kids for Cash” Judge
(newrepublic.com)
Asshole for letting that corrupt piece of shit get out early. That judge caused irreparable harm.
I don't disagree, but there were 1,500 people on that list, and everyone's acting like Biden himself personally reviewed every one of them. It's more likely to me that someone on his staff fucked up - or more likely was paid to sneak one in - than the idea that he himself added said judge knowingly.
Had 4 years to do it
Oh, grow up. It's unlikely that was anywhere near the top of his priority list upon entering office with a once-in-a-lifetime pandemic raging.
Grow up, he's the head of the executive branch and could've assigned an intern 4 years ago and gotten good enough results without letting a corrupt judge go.
Hindsight is always 20-20, and you're an asshole to think you're justified in taking advantage of that to hold someone up to a level of perfection through that lens - one that I'm quite certain you wouldn't qualify for either.
Again, grow up & GTF over yourself.
You are very problematic
I'll amend my statement: Asshole for not paying closer attention.
He ain't the what any sane person would like, but in a crowded market of shitty politicians to choose from, he could be far worse - as many believe (myself included) we're about to find out.
Regardless, 1,500 people is a LOT to review the backgrounds of - especially with the time he has left. I don't think we should be surprised a few bad apples made it through the review process, and I'd rather risk that than those who actually were deserving of it not get theirs as well.
TL;DR: I don't think an understandably rushed process makes him any more of an imperfect human being than he already was. I'm not happy with some decisions he's made, but on the whole he's been no worse than the average.
He didnt need to rush it. Lets say a blanket statement on people who got arrested for weed, or committed crime against the state would have been easier to manage vs someone harmed someone else.
Also the list could have been drafted a while back, but it was clear he doesn't care.
I Personally believe there is no redeeming for someone seeing the genocide in Gaza and can save millions of lives and choses not to do so. And if he doesn’t value the lives of kids and children, he doesn’t care for low class citizen if the united states as well because he lack the humanity to do so.
From my understanding, this was a "blanket" release of those who fit certain non-violent criminal charges. Nothing in this world is perfect. Nothing.
So you saying, rapist, killers, and maybe drug and human traffickers might be on the list as well?
Anything's possible. The bulk should be okay. I'd rather allow some criminals out than continue to jail those who don't deserve it - which would make up the vast majority of those people.
Downvoted for "slammed"
And welcome to the JAM
Yeah I hope he's OK. He's pretty elderly and someone picking him up and slamming him onto the ground can't be good for him.
Oh this is just lazy journalism? Never mind.
load more comments
(3 replies)
Not a defense of Biden, bit maybe this is why?
Buried in the massive list of nearly 1,500 people
You are correct. They hatched a plan to grant clemency to a slew of people who were convicted of non-violent crimes that were switched to home confinement during the pandemic and who kept their noses clean since then. So a bunch of people who tended to skew older and committed financial crimes. No one thought to look at the details, I guess, so he pardoned some people he probably shouldn't have.
Frankly, what's done is done. He needs to now pardon all the kids who were convicted by this asshole and his partner, because they are the ones who really deserve it.
I don't think he can. This is a former county judge who oversaw state cases. It would require the governor and/or state AG to pardon those kids. I actually think there was a commission set up specifically for that purposes, which led to hundreds of vacated convictions and a class action lawsuit that recovered millions in damages.
Ah, you are right. I saw a recent article about the parents of some of those kids who were pissed off and I misremembered the article. I thought that the parents were seeking clemency for their kids. What they actually said in the article was that they wanted "to see the 'same kind of compassion and mercy' extended to juvenile defendants around the country." Which is not something Biden could do anyway because, as you say, those were state level courts/charges.
Yep it's basic Hanlon's razor. But plenty won't care to engage their brains. It's just another reason for them to crucify him.
Which is like if you guys are this upset about what Biden did. You do realize that the person coming into office after him literally sold pardons for money. To some of the worst people you'll ever know. Oh? Not a peep?
What Trump does doesn't justify or defend Mistakes by Biden. But it really is telling that Biden is disproportionately getting raked over the coals.
you guys are this upset about what Biden did. You do realize that the person coming into office after him literally sold pardons or money. To some of the worst people you’ll ever know. Oh? Not a peep?
Eldritch, always here with the nonsense distraction attempt for Biden and/or genocide and low standards for dem leaders. "Sure I killed 3 kids your honor, but what about that other guy? He killed 4! so why am I even here in court?"
So eldritch, once again, we dont judge ourselves as doing fine if we stay slightly above the worst level of what some other side is doing. Thats not how any of this works. Its not how life works. Your point is nonsensical. It amounts to a self defense of meaningless and braindead centrism, doesnt it.
I literally said it's not a defense of him. Just pointed out that it's odd that so many are so seemingly upset. At what specifically a lame duck outgoing president did. By mass pardoning a group of people. Which included someone it shouldn't have. Likely not by Biden's inclusion. And you felt so personally called out by it. That you did nothing but project and put words I never said into my mouth. Funny that. Some advice for the future comrade. You'll have much more fruitful discussions if you engage with what people actually say. Instead of trying to make up things to get offended at. That's ultimately my point and you proved it. Thank you very much friend.
You're like this in all of your many many comments.
You backpedal with a "I just X". or trying to pretend everyone misunderstood what you obviously said.
You ALWAYS run interference for Biden and genocide with the same tired "But Trump is worse" and "Biden probably didnt do X on purpose" drivel. Its always the main point of your comment: "what about Trump."
You throw in a tired ad-hom, like this time calling me "comrade". or sometimes its "kiddo" or "uninformed" or "uneducated".
And you clutch your pearls and claim its personal.
*le sigh.
There a significant difference between having a perspective on the bigger picture versus "defending" one aspect of it. The person you're attacking stated they weren't defending Biden because it's obviously wrong, but they were pointing out that in the larger scheme of things it's comparatively SOP or even small peanuts compared to other similar wrongs committed by other people in the same position.
I'm quite disgusted with the Biden administration's handling of Netanyahu myself, but that doesn't mean the answer is to replace it with someone with an even worse human rights track record.
Why do you bring up replacement in this conversation? pushing for better leadership within the party doesnt equate to boosting Trump. We're supposed to have our own standards, not only exist as some foil to the far right. Thats exactly how we all lost in the last election.
Because the community is called "Politics," not "The Democratic Party." We can talk about both here.
Lots of people prefer to speak of Biden only in the context of comparing him to trump. strange, eh. He cant stand on his own two feet, he needs that Trump comparison, or who is he? Shall we look at his actions without that crutch of comparing him to Trump? no?
So sure, we can talk about both here, because otherwise the centrists would have nothing at all to say.
They compare them because they are the most recent presidents. I've also seen Biden compared to Obama and DUHbya, but you don't see those because that's not what you're looking for to propagate your preferred narrowly-focused narrative.
Grow up, get some perspective, and get over your high-n-mighty self.
I'm done with you. Goodnight.
They compare them because they are the most recent presidents.
nonsense. You compare them because centrists tried running as slightly better than the far right, and calling that good. Well its not good, and when you keep brining it up it looks like you want to keep going along with the same mistakes that brought us to this epic loss. We're not going to get out of this by making the same exact play with the same exact lack of ideology as always.
Grow up, get some perspective, and get over your high-n-mighty self. I’m done with you. Goodnight.
And you tell me to grow up? You replied to me, right? Take some responsibilities for your own actions, centrist. And if not operating in a philosophical world where everything is relative to fascism counts as "high and mighty" to you, then thats not great.
load more comments
(3 replies)
It always reminds me of the West Wing episode where the commutation lawyer asks if the president is looking for "packing peanuts." Like, does he have a buddy that needs their sentence commuted and wants a smokescreen for the move.
load more comments
(2 replies)
He should also be "dragged" and "condemned".
Before he's tried for abetting genocide. He violated numerous laws. Leahy for starters.
"Slammed"
Cringe use of words
Would be fun if one of the victims of that judge were to literally body slam Biden, though. Hypothetically.
Biden didn't actually intentionally pardon him, Biden signed off on a broad commutation/pardon for many nonviolent crimes who have had good behavior.
President Biden is commuting the sentences of nearly 1,500 people who were released from prison and placed on home confinement during the coronavirus pandemic and is pardoning 39 Americans convicted of nonviolent crimes. It's the largest single-day act of clemency in modern history.
This particular judge just happened to qualify by chance. Some kids in similar situations might have also been eligible for the same type of pardon.
I think at this point Biden doesn’t give a flying fuck. His political career is coming to a close and he can retire.
Maybe, and hear me out here, maybe it wasn't a great idea to treat a president as king with no way to reign in their power other than waiting until the next election cycle.
There are multiple ways to reign in a president.
If politicians are unwilling to take any of those ways, then it's not only the president lacking accountability.
You are correct, it's clear he doesn't care. It's just a shame that the mask-off, nothing to lose Biden still bends over backwards to help Israel commit genocide, commutes this sentence in particular, and pardons his own son while doing nothing that the average American could consider helpful. Mask-off Biden really sucks.
I don’t understand why people think he would react any other way. He has always been a Zionist and his views have not changed. Not that as President he has much choice not to cave the desire of allies and the pressure of the military industrial complex.
I do wish he at least showed some backbone about Israel’s genocide, but honestly the US has a historical background to f not giving a fuck. Do people not remember all the atrocities that the US committed in Iraq/Afghanistan under Bush?
load more comments
(1 replies)
In a few months y’all be praying for the normalcy that was Biden.
And? Does this mean he is immune to criticism because he's not Trump? This is a pretty big fuckup, even if it's an accident.
Does this mean he is immune to criticism because he's not Trump?
According to the Dem leadership, campaign strategists, and every "Blue No Matter Who" automaton?
Yes. That's exactly what everything means. About both him and his politically identical VP.
It just means we didn't want orange Hitler act 2. Ds aren't good but they're objectively better than any R. I do what I want in the primary then what I must in the general. If you can't get behind that well... here's 2025 hope one of y'all can shelter me when the new gestapo comes around.
It just means we didn't want orange Hitler act 2. Ds aren't good but they're objectively better than any R. I do what I want in the primary then what I must in the general
No, that part is self evident. Everyone sane and not the victim of intense brainwashing agrees on that.
Where we differ is your false framing.
To pretend that you either support one side unconditionally and never criticize ANYTHING about it no matter what or you're on the other side is absolute lunacy. That or deliberate gaslighting.
If you can't get behind that well
Again with that stupid false dichotomy strawman combo 🤦
Arrogance and obstinate refusal to listen like that from the Dem leadership and obsequious serfs like you is how the fascists won.
load more comments
(6 replies)
load more comments
(1 replies)
load more comments
(12 replies)
Nah, I'll continue to fight for something better
Conservative media won't shut up about a non-story of Biden reducing a man's sentence from 17 to 15.
Meanwhile Trump prepares to ruin America
view more: next ›
this post was submitted on 16 Dec 2024
230 points (100.0% liked)
politics
19223 readers
2567 users here now
Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!
Rules:
- Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.
Example:
- Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
- Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
- No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
- Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
- No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning
We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.
All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.
That's all the rules!
Civic Links
• Congressional Awards Program
• Library of Congress Legislative Resources
• U.S. House of Representatives
Partnered Communities:
• News
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS