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[-] echolalia@lemmy.ml 54 points 2 days ago

And? Does this mean he is immune to criticism because he's not Trump? This is a pretty big fuckup, even if it's an accident.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 days ago

Does this mean he is immune to criticism because he's not Trump?

According to the Dem leadership, campaign strategists, and every "Blue No Matter Who" automaton?

Yes. That's exactly what everything means. About both him and his politically identical VP.

[-] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 days ago

It just means we didn't want orange Hitler act 2. Ds aren't good but they're objectively better than any R. I do what I want in the primary then what I must in the general. If you can't get behind that well... here's 2025 hope one of y'all can shelter me when the new gestapo comes around.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 2 days ago

It just means we didn't want orange Hitler act 2. Ds aren't good but they're objectively better than any R. I do what I want in the primary then what I must in the general

No, that part is self evident. Everyone sane and not the victim of intense brainwashing agrees on that.

Where we differ is your false framing.

To pretend that you either support one side unconditionally and never criticize ANYTHING about it no matter what or you're on the other side is absolute lunacy. That or deliberate gaslighting.

If you can't get behind that well

Again with that stupid false dichotomy strawman combo 🤦

Arrogance and obstinate refusal to listen like that from the Dem leadership and obsequious serfs like you is how the fascists won.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

Ah the part where you pretend screaming GeNoCiDe for a year and pretended Trump being worse was irrelevant had no effect on elections. I'm sure that of the record number who stayed home, none did it because of the GeNoCiDe frauds.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

screaming GeNoCiDe for a year

Yeah, because being at all critical about active complicity in the worst crimes against humanity possible is the same as advocating for fascism! 🤦

and pretended Trump being worse was irrelevant

Yet another strawman. I did no such thing at any point.

I'm sure that of the record number who stayed home, none did it because of the GeNoCiDe frauds.

And I'm equally sure that nobody stayed home because even the lesser evil refused to listen to the vast majority of the people they're supposed to represent. That's not at ALL something that could suppress voter participation! 🙄

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

You got what you wanted. Democrats lost.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

No, that's the exact opposite of what I wanted, which I have made clear from the start.

Please either at least TRY to argue in good faith or stop arguing at all.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

TRY to argue in good faith or stop arguing at all.

Says the moral "GeNoCiDe" warrior

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Says the moral "GeNoCiDe" warrior

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

This getting downvoted can only be explained by emotional fragility

[-] echolalia@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I feel the need to say I completely agree with you. Normally when people quote me I think they are arguing with me idk.

fistbump

Edit: Tell me why you are downvoting me, you cowards!

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 days ago

Normally when people quote me I think they are arguing with me idk

That's usually the case here, yeah 🤷 Glad to be the exception today, though 😁

fistbump

🤜

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago
[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 days ago

Yes, really. That's how they lost to the most unqualified, dishonest, and mentally unhinged presidential candidate in modern history. Twice.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sure, that's what it is, because people said we should vote for Biden instead of hold him to a high standard while ignoring Trump acting like neo-Hitler.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Again with the false dichotomy: it is in fact possible to vote for someone without holding them blameless no matter what they do or don't do.

You're not just allowed but REQUIRED to hold the ones meant to represent you to a high standard if you want anything to improve.

"Anything better than Trump is good enough" is not how you end up with people accurately representing the will of the people or even PRETENDING to.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

it is in fact possible to vote for someone without holding them blameless no matter what they do or don't do.

LMAO and yet you started this thread ranting about how if someone ever pushed back on you, it means they are fully intolerant of ANY criticism of ANY Democrat, ever.

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

you started this thread ranting about how if someone ever pushed back on you, it means they are fully intolerant of ANY criticism of ANY Democrat, ever.

Nope, sure didn't. That's just you projecting.

I can explain it for you, and I have, but I can't understand it for you. Have the day you deserve.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

All anyone has to do is scroll up to be reminded. You claimed your "enemy" is entirely incapable of nuance and in the way you did so, proved you aren't.

Thanks for the weird threat to my day tho?

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

I was employing obvious hyperbole to make a point. That you chose to take it literally in spite of that in order to build yet another strawman is on you.

Thanks for the weird threat to my day tho?

Wishes aren't threats. If I was powerful enough to wish things into existence, Trump would never have become president and we wouldn't be having this conversation.

Now go bother someone else with your bad faith nonsense.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Have the exact day that karma has in store for you 😍

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

Thanks, I will now that I'm hopefully done with your nonsense for the day.

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