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Portal
GTA IV actually, not even counting the two huge DLCs, just the base game alone.
GTA in general has a long story. Which I honestly don't mind. It means you get your money's worth with the story alone. All the messing around is just secondary and an added bonus.
I was trying to think of one since I feel the opposite most of the time. This one did surprise me with the length. You think the end is approaching, but some more bullshit is ejected at Niko every time. The main quests takes a lot of detours (in a good way). There isn't just one villain and you help/fight tons of different factions across the islands.
Fallout 4. The amount of world exploration and itty bitty stuffs almost makes me lost myself in exploration, even though the story can be really short depending how you progress the content. On my first playthrough, I clocked at ~90hrs of play time and only just passed the 1/4 of story progression just because I sucked in sidequest and exploration.
Never thought I enjoyed the base building and assisting settlements aspects, Bethesda did great job on Visual storytelling speaking as Interplay/Obsidian Fallout fan.
Another case is STALKER Anomaly mod which can gives you theoritical endless playtime as long as you creative to build your own CYOA Stalker story. Though I don't recommend Anomaly if you're looking for the STALKER lore (as they're fan project) and should be treated as post-vanilla playthrough.
Nethack.
The first few dozen times I played it, it felt like it took forever to get anywhere. The most recent time I played, it felt quick and easy to get to the bottom. (I got stuck on something, though, and haven't been able to continue past the valley of the dead.)
Going back a ways here with Castlevania: Symphony of The Night. It seems like a fairly fleshed out game as it is when you get to the “final” boss but then you read a guide and find out “ending A” is only half of the game
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Celeste. I was not expecting the core and farewell
Final Fantasy 12
I had just come off of FFX while running through all the FF games that I could. With FF12, I got to a point where I had a solid amount of freedom and did a bunch of side quests and stuff. Then the next portion of the story takes you to this mountain, and I thought, ah cool, this looks like "new base" material. They lay out new information about the plot and then the next stop is to assault an air ship.
Kick ass, I think. This is probably roughly the story equivalent of the assault on Bevelle from FFX, you go in, fight your way through, a cinematic happens and the thrust of the story changes, new info drops, motivations change and are renewed just like in FFX.
Nope. You get to the boss on that ship, it's some dude you have little to no investment in fighting. You kick his ass, he transforms, easy fight, and the game just ends.
I sat in actual open mouthed disbelief. There was no way the game ended there, at what I felt was dramatically and game time wise to be the obvious mid point. And yet, there the credits rolled.
I was so disappointed.
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Maybe not the length of the main campaign, but good luck 100%ing Cartherine, holy shit. Nevermind Full Body. There's like 8 endings combined + insane challenges and 64-stage game within the game. +100 hours easy, if not more.
No matter how much I've played it, I don't think I've ever got past half of the campaign of Sacred.
Now playing Elden Ring and even if I'm just starting out I'm constantly surprised by the amount of stuff in the world, most of which I only discovered the second or third time I visited the area it's in.
Miitopia. I wasn't expecting more worlds from such a simple game. I really enjoyed it though.
Universal Paperclip, was expexting day, weeks or more of gameplay and there were 4-5 hours of good gameplay. It was perfect.
It’s a surprisingly good game even it’s just a clicker game based on HTML forms.
13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim
I knew it was a jrpg from the beginning, but the way the stories unfolded and piled up had me confused. There was a new question every chapter and it just bwcqme bigge and bigger. Awesome game
Biggest surprise for length was Dragon Quest VII, the PSX version. Started playing it close to release, dropped it several times and finally finished it years later.
I'd played multiple games in the series before and I think the longest one topped out at 40 hours, so I really was not expecting a 100+ hour marathon like that was (although the very, very long prologue should probably have served as a warning).
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Developers are demonstrably not getting more efficient with their content. More content means more assets, and that's why development timelines have only gotten longer over the years.
Yeah, games take time to make. It's good that they have more content now. Do you not remember how short campaigns used to be?
I do, and I miss it. I'm far more likely to feel these days like they made too much game to its own detriment than to make it a length that felt better for the game's pacing. Baldur's Gate 3 was phenomenal from start to finish, but games frequently come in at a third of its length and feel like they were longer than they should have been. Lots of games transitioned to open world that used to be linear, and the open world is little more than a menu that makes it take longer to select your mission, because you have to travel there. They create checklists of busy work to keep you playing worse content between the moments that you actually want to do, like the side missions that litter modern Assassin's Creed games with progression gates. I didn't know how good we had it when we got FPS campaigns between 8 and 12 hours in the years following Half-Life 1, because they've been so rare since Titanfall 2 came out 8 years ago. Games being longer now is not solving a problem that I had, and I'd argue it's often creating problems.
Maybe you prefer your games longer, and good on you if you do, but it's most definitely not due to developers getting more efficient with their content. For one reason or another, because you're demanding it as the customer or because modern asset pipelines make it make the most fiscal sense, they're just spending more time making the content.
You can still get short games, you just won't find them from AAA developers anymore because publishers want big games with bigger profits. Titanfall 2 was a great campaign even if short, but Halo 5 was the last short game we had and people threw a shit storm (rightly, it wasn't near the quality of TF2 and had other issues).
If you want short games, the indie space has you covered. Always small games out there releasing.
And game devs have certainly not become inefficient, it's just the standards of quality are higher. People still want more complex, better looking games. And I don't mean just graphics; unique art styles are all the rage. Games like Balatro and Cruelty Squad prove graphics aren't everything as long as you keep a cohesive style and have good gameplay to back it up.
Personally though I avoid small games. I've had my fill of them growing up, I'd rather play big games with open worlds and all that jazz. I want to be invested in these worlds not play and forget.
I agree that AAA developers are the ones typically not making short games, and I agree that I am well-covered by indies. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. FPS games are about the only genre I feel like I used to be well-served in that indies haven't quite picked up yet, so I can't really just "go elsewhere" these days to scratch that itch (but games like Mouse: P.I. for Hire may be the start). But I was really just arguing against the efficiency part. I don't think they've become less efficient at making content, but they've seemingly stayed exactly as efficient and just spent much longer doing it. I don't find that a big open world makes a game any more memorable, especially when it exhibits the negative trends of filler and bloat I mentioned already.
I remember being surprised by Lufia 2 rise of the sinistrals. It was my first RPG other than a Zelda type game as a kid.
I never expected A Girl Who Chants Love At the Bound of This World: YUNO on the PC98 to take me like 80 hours to complete without a guide.
XCom2 the content just DOES NOT END.
And MGS Peacewalker. How they cramed so much stuff unto the tiny PSP disk is beyond me. The list of unlockables is insane.
Ist too bad Xcom games are so focused on time limits. I know it meant to add to the tension but its just frustrating to me to non-stop rush everything.
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Duck Detective. Charming game, but quite short.
Drakenguard 3, Nier.
The only time I was really caught off guard by a game like that was Darksiders II. I went into the final area expecting a gauntlet of challenges, beat the first big boss enemy in there... And final cutscene and credits. That guy was the final boss. Made me literally put down the controller and say "That was it?" I've always known long games were going to be long going in to them.
Beyond The Edge of Owlsgarde. No spoilers, but despite playing it for plenty of hours (don't have an exact count), I felt it was short. Pretty cool enough of a modern point and click adventure game, though.
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