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[-] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 50 points 2 months ago

Cause Geralt retired in the dlc duh!

[-] forgotaboutlaye@lemmy.world 17 points 2 months ago

Man, Blood and Wine was such an amazing DLC

[-] toynbee@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

Also, IIRC, at the time they said he was done as a character.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago

Also in the main story. At least in the "canon" ending

[-] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

The only answer they should have to provide is "because we wanted to and anyone who has a problem with that can go fuck themselves."

[-] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 15 points 2 months ago

Short sections where you play as a teenage white girl = not politics Entire game playing as white woman = politics

[-] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 12 points 2 months ago

Thought it was a good opportunity to switch to a custom protagonist. Oh well.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 5 points 2 months ago

That was my hope as well, especially after CP2077.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago

IDK, honestly. one of my biggest takeaways from cp2077 is it felt like they wanted to do a more guided story in an open world and struggled with the custom character aspect. like how the origins were all basically meaningless after the first 10 minutes.

the frustrating part of cyberpunk was feeling railroaded into a specific character with specific attitudes and ideas. really, they were just doing what they know and what they're good at creating a character driven narrative based on existing characters. I'm happy to see them go back to that because i think they're just better at it.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 3 points 2 months ago

They didn't had to do the origins, but I think it's more a result of them generally struggling with the development. The game has shortcomings everywhere, especially in its story. The whole intro with Jackie is just meh and you're supposed to like him so that it is this big traumatic hit when he dies but I just did not care. Then they introduce this moronic unlikable character of Silverhand which guides you through the whole game in some inconsistent ways, and I could not care less about this asshole, especially since his character started to rub off on V. To think they only did this because Keanu Reeves suggested them that the character should have a bigger role and that the original story apparently looked very different... Not even starting on the last mission which I could not even bother doing because I already knew V finds an end there and you can then only load a previous save to keep playing the open world. So of course, not caring about the story, I did not care about that either.

Obviously I could not be bothered to buy the paid DLC that wasn't supposed to exist either.

I did like having my own character creation though. I did like having the ability to roam an open world and buy things. But I would've preferred a game with less of an idiotic story, hell, drop the story and instead work on more open world content and features instead. Be a little more sandboxy and open ended instead of having me play the hero of my own story.

As for the Witcher... Don't care. I never got into it. Got through most of the first game but the choices & character drama annoyed me and I could not get into Geralt either. Combat, monsters and story felt blegh so I just dropped it. Could not be arsed to pick it up again.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

oh man, to judge the entire Witcher series on the first one is intense. they're all very very different games. you should try the third one on its own.

it's like saying you don't like mmos because you didn't like classic RuneScape in the 90s. or like saying you don't like rpgs because text based adventures weren't your thing. not exactly representative.

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 2 points 2 months ago

Your analogy makes no sense. We're talking about the same franchise & character here. It's like jumping into the middle of an ongoing TV show.

[-] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

hmm, more like jumping into a new series in a franchise that rebooted a decade later. like saying you can't possibly like the dark knight because the 90s Batman movies were bad. they're completely different.

the Witcher franchise is based on books. the games happen chronologically after the books. the first two games don't really follow the book story. the third one decided to pick up the book story again and can be approached on its own. the first game was the first thing they ever made as a tiny Indy studio. the writing was bad and the gameplay was completely different. it's so old that it's from before 3d movement was standardized in games. they learned a lot over time.

you're not being fair by judging the later games off of the first.

[-] TassieTosser@aussie.zone 1 points 2 months ago

The first witcher game is classic eurojank. It took me 4 false starts to get through it. Witcher 2 was better and so was 3. Though 3 really laid the open world junk on thick and could've benefited from a bit of linearity.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Its okay, you can say it. Modern identity politics and existing market familiarity.

I mean, it would have been maybe more interesting to me to play as my own character in the Witcher universe, but Ciri is not the worst choice in the world, even if she was an extremely predictable pick for protagonist.

EDIT: "Come to Lemmy, we are way more chill and less hostile than Reddit." Lol, whoever told me this was obviously lying. It's exactly the same here, just with more Tankies.

[-] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 2 months ago

You know that incels have a smell, right?

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 months ago

It's so easy to pick out the bigots when you say "women can do things too" and they lose their mind and start ranting about "modern identity politics".

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Yes, I am the bigot that usually picks to play as a woman in video games ever since they had the option. How very bigoted of me.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 months ago

You don't play female characters because you're a supporter of strong heroic women and want to embody one. You do it because you want to look at a female character on your screen. This really isn't the flex you think it is.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Metroid and Alien are two of my favorite franchises, both featuring strong heroic women as the central character, but go off.

Thanks for telling me to just block you, proving that Lemmy is not the place of positivity that it was advertised to me as. Some of you Lemmy users are just as hateful as users somewhere like on t social, gotta love it.

[-] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 16 points 2 months ago

Lemmy is very left-leaning, and you complained about "modern identity politics" from having a female lead in a video game. You shouldn't be surprised at all.

[-] stevedice@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, you are. Glad you understand.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 28 points 2 months ago

What do you mean by "modern identity politics"?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 38 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

They mean 'women protagonists bad!'

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

No, that is not what I mean. I usually pick to play as a woman in games anyway. But I won't explain it now, since you have just assumed something incorrect and I know it will be more frustrating for people here to leave it this way.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago

I didn't assume, you broadcasted it with 'modern identity politics' bullshit.

[-] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

Yes, women protagonists are so EVIL, thats exactly why I almost always intentionally pick to play as them! Wow, you are so smart!

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Looks like you meant to reply to some other post.

[-] otp@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

It doesn't frustrate anyone. It makes you look bad...lol

[-] illi@lemm.ee 8 points 2 months ago

Isn't this a little like hating on Geralt in W3 because he was extremely predictable pick for a protagonist?

[-] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Read, then post.

[-] felykiosa@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

I kinda see what you wanted to say in the second part of your message but I have to hardly disagree with the first part

[-] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Edit: ...

Thanks for visiting. Don't stay so long next time.

[-] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 2 months ago

Because they started building that up in The Witcher 3 nine years ago ?

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

So will she be retroactively declared a witcher? Because she never was one.

[-] makyo@lemmy.world 23 points 2 months ago

Wasn't her becoming a Witcher one of the W3 possible endings?

[-] CitizenKong@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

It was? Huh, wasn't aware of that. She never came back in my playthroughs. :(

[-] Contramuffin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

Yeah, there are multiple endings based on arbitrary choices made in the some of the dialogues scattered throughout the game. In the "good" ending, Ciri wins and survives, and Geralt gifts her a silver sword, implying that she becomes a witcher

[-] luciole@beehaw.org 6 points 2 months ago

I’m glad for that move. By the end of Witcher 3 I was supremely fed up with Geralt’s whole shtick. I couldn’t take anymore of that giant hunk of boring constantly tripping over thirsty sexy single witches near his location. The so called "dating sim" part was nothing more than basic fan service. I’m liking Ciri’s "I’m done" energy in the trailer.

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