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[-] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 82 points 1 year ago

If I can't burn your holy book without terrorism there's a problem.

[-] kandoh@reddthat.com 11 points 1 year ago

If I can't walk down the streets of Tel Aviv dressed like Hitler then there is a problem.

If I can't drive through a small town in 'Bama with a 'I VOTED FOR HILARY' bumper sticker then there is a problem.

If I can't go to a Portland Cider Bar wearing a Make America Great Again hat then there is a problem.

[-] Windows_95@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 year ago

Jessie what the fuck are you talking about

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Whataboutism

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[-] lukzak@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 year ago

You keep putting yourself into the position where you GO somewhere. Sure, don't go to Israel if you're a Nazi.

Don't go to Alabama at all.

Don't go to Portland as a supporter of fascism if you don't want to be labeled as a fascist.

Don't go to a 1st world country if you want to cut off people's heads for burning books. Don't go to places if you don't support the principles they've carved out there. It's not that hard.

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[-] Naich@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

Why would you want to burn their holy book?

[-] archiotterpup@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

I'm against burning books but if someone wants to, let them.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 21 points 1 year ago

Books are for reading, not burning. But anyone should be allowed to burn any book they want to burn. It's nothing but ink on paper.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Why would anyone want a book about pedophilia and war?

[-] not_me_now@sh.itjust.works 62 points 1 year ago

Imagine living in a world where you fear for your citizens because someone could kill them as a revenge for some burnt books.

[-] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 11 points 1 year ago

@not_me_now @DoctorTYVM

Some Americans feel the same way about those who burn a flag.

[-] tired_n_bored@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

I have just noticed Americans calling for the killing of Democrats because they dare waving a LGBTQ flag. They are literally the same kind of people they hate, extremist Muslims

[-] girlfreddy@mastodon.social 9 points 1 year ago

@tired_n_bored

Yup.

Extreme fundamentalism from any angle is the same damned thing.

[-] not_me_now@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 year ago

The same can apply to them then.

I abhor any form of physical violence which I always find unjustifiable.

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[-] corm@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 year ago

Unless a huge majority of muslim religious leaders are decrying seeking vengeance for things like this, and unless they're all telling their congregations to be peaceful, then it's a shit religion that I would be ashamed to be a part of.

[-] SulaymanF@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

We ARE condemning it. We’ve been consistently doing that for literally decades now. Did you even bother to check?

[-] corm@sopuli.xyz 7 points 1 year ago

So the majority of the muslim priests (imams) are loudly condemning it during their sermons? You sure?

If so, aight, fair enough.

But if I were you I'd do what a ton of people did for the catholic church during the whole child sex scandal, and leave to join an offshoot

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[-] ebenixo@sh.itjust.works 28 points 1 year ago

Fuck religion. you can pray to your sky God however you want but you don't get to decide for others what they can or can't do on their time

[-] Mediocre_Bard@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

At some point we will just have to burn all the religious text and be done with it.

[-] MaxHardwood@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 year ago

Burn every science book and eventually they'll be exactly rewritten. Burn every religious story and they're gone forever.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I wonder why they are so afraid of the religion of peace?

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, all major religions are known for their very level-headed followers. No need to worry.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That didn't really answer my question. Whataboutism.

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[-] Transcendant@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Muslims allowing islam to be known as 'the religion of peace' is one of the biggest doublespeaky manipulations around. They're technically correct, because they're referring to this line from the quran: "There will be peace on earth when there is no more al-fitnah". Al-fitnah means 'disbelief' so what they're saying is, there WILL be peace on earth, once we've converted everyone to our religion (forcibly or otherwise).

I'm a bookworm, read voraciously, and as a sad lonely young teen who struggled to understand religious people, decided to read all the books. Hindu vedas; Christian old / new testament; Buddhist dhamapada; quran, and the hadith. Islam is an awful religion when taken literally, and the few islamic sects who are genuinely peaceful (eg ahmadi, sufi) are not even considered 'real muslims' by the more popular interpretations (eg sunni / shia / salafi).

Don't rely on out-of-context quotes from dodgy rightwingers, don't rely on out-of-context explanations from muslims seeking to proselytise and make excuses, EVERYONE should read it for themselves so you're debating on solid ground with facts on your side. My absolute favourite line from these particular religious texts is when Mohammed says he wants another wife to his (iirc final wife) Aisha. Aisha says something like, you've already had the maximum number of wives; Mo falls into a trance then says, don't worry, I just spoke to god and he says it's fine. She replies "Oh, how your god rushes to fulfil your desires". Even she knew it was a crock of shit.

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[-] sugarfree@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

I hope their counter-terror operations are successful and end with a deficit of bullets.

[-] Klinker@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

They go and cry about muslim being intolerant yet they go and burn their sacred book which is considered the holiest thing for them.

Am I the only one seeing the problem here?

[-] gazby@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Genuinely unsure if satirical or not...

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