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Hey look! Let's just raise a huge middle finger to what's left of our ecosystems.
How did it go? Yes, humanity was destroyed, but for one moment we maximized profits!
Not to mention that carriers love the new trucks.
Because they're heated and actually safe to drive and don't break down every two months like the old mail vehicles.
Current LLVs are heated, they don't have AC.
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At this point, it's not really about maximizing profits, it's about trying to undo every change Biden made
At this point, it’s not really about maximizing profits, it’s about trying to undo every change Biden made
Its even worse. The new truck was likely by Dejoy, Trump's own appointee.
What do you mean?
Trump appointed DeJoy in 2020 to the position as Postmaster General.
OK. I am still having trouble parsing
The new truck was by Dejoy
What does that mean?
Trump chose Dejoy to lead the Post Office. Dejoy is head of the Post Office. The Post Office chose this new EV truck. Therefore the new EV truck is a product of Trump's choice. Now Trump is trying to kill his (by proxy) chosen EV truck.
Ah gotcha. I don't think Dejoy is a green advocate or anything. Congress gave the postal service 3B dollars to invest in electric vehicles, and that's what they started doing. They are cheaper if you amortize costs over a decade.
Absolutely. And Trump put the man in charge, and is now saying he's doing wrong.
Trump's is Putin's puppet. He's set to destroy whatever he can.
The way he talked about Putin making Obama look dumb... he thinks that when you act like an asshole and tear down what someone built that it makes the other person look bad.
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Trump doesn't care. He's going to be dead in a few years and as far as he's concerned, the entire universe could instantly implode afterward.
In fact, he probably thinks the universe ends when his finite energy battery that keeps his fat ass from exercising gives out.
Those trucks get like six miles to the gallon, they're a massive liability on American finances. If the average price of gas changes by a cent that's something like nearly a million dollars difference. This isn't maximizing profit, this is just being petty to own the libs.
In case anyone wants to do math, it's actual MPG is a 17 combination. In real world settings it gets 8 - 10 MPG. From recent hearing EV USPS truck costs 20k more than ICE variant. The new Oshkosh vehicle uses 1.5kWh supposedly.
If anyone was curious the new replacement ICE variant should get 8.5 to 10.5 MPG.
Grumman absolutely knocked it out of the park with that LLV design for it being 4 decades ago.
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More EVs means lower gas prices.
This drives up gas prices.
Killing the tax credit drives up gas prices.
It's quite remarkable how economically m ignorant a large section of America is. Supply and demand is the easiest model to understand and yet these voters have been positioned to work against their own best interest at a basic economic level.
And this is only one a hundreds of examples. Fascinating time to be alive.
Gas prices are artificially created by OPEC... Although considering Trump is buddies with Russia and others, I could see him wanting an excuse to increase demand so they can sell more.
That control only exists as long as demand increases. They need oil revenue. Less demand means they need to increase supply to maintain revenue. Increased supply means prices fall. These are incredibly basic economic principles. Every EV sold decreases their control.
I guess I just didn't see how whatever fraction of a percent of gas used by USPS vehicles is really going to impact a global market. Prices drop, people buy bigger cars, other countries slow changes as well, one more easy well gets permanently capped.
China's EV market has probably been a way bigger shock to oil price than part of a percent of US gas use changing would be.
More EVs means lower gas prices.
This drives up gas prices.
I know, it's almost as though the multinational oil corporations and their shareholders who backed all three of Trump's campaigns want higher oil and gas prices for some reason... what could that be?
That part at least makes sense.
It's all the voters with their massive gas guzzling vehicles that are voting against their best interest. Over and over again.
The fact is that you're politically engaged and the average voter is not.
They're not dumb or anything, but politics and economics are not things for which they look past their noses. Politics and economics are complex topics and that's why Trump's antics and tactics work so well. He stays in the headlines and gets people feeling like they're part of a team. For a similar example, loads of folks don't pay attention to NFL players, teams, and coaches during the off season... but once games start happening, allegiances are taken. Even if a neighboring or different franchise might have a better chance of winning (thus make you feel like a winner by proxy) you might still just cheer on the team that first caught your attention/is in your geographic area. People don't want a sermon and they definitely don't want to be scolded... they want to be on a winning team regardless of the consequences of that choice (leopards eating faces, etc, etc).
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The existing fleet is past aging out, they are often held together with patch welds and duct tape in my area. Is the plan ride it until the wheels literally fall off, with no replacements in pipeline?
No, they will just redirect to gas. They are buying something either way, the money has already been committed. Right now it's 50/50 ev and gas plan, while slowing increasing the EV percentage as they roll out the chargers.
Now it sounds like they want to scrap it all, which is unfortunate considering chargers are in process of being built.
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can make money on it. Failure is the goal.
"Failure is the goal" needs to be the subtitle of every news story for the foreseeable future.
Yeah but even if that's the play - could private business even fill the gap? USPS stretches the final miles deep into places not profitable to deliver to. Businesses, doing business stuff, use it to economically have their products available to the rural communities that voted these policies in.. it's all so confusing.
Is mailing a letter automated space communism? Sheesh.
And ironically, it’s the flyover deep red parts of the country that are the most rural, and therefore the most unprofitable legs of these delivery services. As with so many other GOP policies, it would mostly impact their supporters.
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Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can make money on it. Failure is the goal.
Actually yes. They want to privatize it so that they can ~~make money on it~~ further exploit the working class. Failure is the goal.
Although you're right, I like to call out what it will do to everyone so it's more explicit and will hopefully click in people's minds.
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Crippling the USPS with additional fuel costs and shitty low mileage vehicles will work out great I'm sure.
As designed so they can privatize.
Not just that. They're going to cripple these services so bad that they don't even function and then blame their ineptitude on this sick remnant of the Democratic past, while they point at the flaws they created as justification.
You won't have a choice. You don't, actually.
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Don't worry, Elon Musk has a much better idea for a postal vehicle. All he needs is 10 years and 1 trillion dollars and he'll be ready with the prototype.
And then the prototype will be just the regular robotaxi where he stuffed a bunch of letters on the passender seat. Car is meant go from house to house and then honk untill people come down and pick up their stuff from the seat. Unfortunately, the vehicle only works in movie studios with a pre-programmed route. Those of you not living in a movie studio will have to pick up their stuff at the next Tesla dealer for a small fee of $10.
And his dipshit USPS head is still there waiting for his time to shine.
Well if you watched the recent hearing the Republicans were reaming him out because he apparently hasn't slashed expensives/services enough and it's still in the red. So he might be getting replaced soon with someone worse.
Reuters has previously reported that Trump is planning to kill a $7,500 consumer tax credit for electric vehicle purchases
Noooo! My friends just bought EVs and they're gonna be so smug if I don't get the credit!
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Exclusive: Trump does stupid shit. more at 11.
usps should go on strike if this happens
Keep in mind, this is a new Gilded Age. Trump would most certainly call in the Pinkertons for some good ol' fashioned strike breaking.
My money is on USPS employees, they are a different breed. Also a significant number of them are veterans.
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I remember reading Dante's Inferno for the first time. I'm glad to be reminded of that.
I can't say watching red wisconsin counties get fucked hard by Trump doing the thing everyone expected him to do isn't satisfying
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